Question on Reducing Dark Noise in Photodiodes

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The discussion revolves around methods to reduce dark noise in photodiodes, focusing on the potential impact of altering the illumination area and the use of additional components like resistors. The scope includes technical explanations and practical applications related to photodiode performance.

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  • Technical explanation, Experimental/applied, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether reducing the area of illumination on a photodiode can decrease dark noise, specifically asking about the relationship between intensity per unit area and dark noise.
  • Another participant suggests that reducing dark current would require changes in the photodiode's manufacturing technology rather than just optical adjustments.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that dark noise is primarily due to thermally generated hole-electron pairs and suggests cooling the diode as a method to reduce noise.
  • One participant proposes that reverse biasing the diode might mitigate thermal effects, noting that the outcome could depend on the type of amplifier used.
  • Another suggestion involves adding a resistor in series to limit current, with a caution about ensuring the appropriate wattage rating for the resistor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of various methods to reduce dark noise, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the impact of illumination area on noise levels.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the relationship between illumination area and dark noise remain unexamined, and there are unresolved questions regarding the specific effects of different amplification methods on signal-to-noise ratios.

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[SOLVED] Question on Reducing Dark Noise in Photodiodes

I realize that this is more of a technology question than a physics question, but our technology forum seems to have been overrun by computer nerds. Anyway, I am wondering if it is possible to reduce the dark current of a diode by placing a lens in front of it. Let's say that in theory, you could take the illumination normally impinged on a diode of a certain surface area and shrink that same intensity down to a smaller area. Does intensity per unit area affect the dark noise in a photodiode?

Please show me some equations.

Thanks.

eNtRopY
 
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As I remember the dark current is one of the parameters caracterizing a photodiode. So if you want to reduce the dark current you'd have to change the technology in which the photodiode is produced. But I'll take a look at my electronic device course tonight and get back to you.
http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~Orly_lab/publictions/OE_Empirical_CMOS_APS_DC_Modeling_Final.pdf
 
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The dark noise

is largely caused by thermally created hole-electron pairs, to reduce them cool the diode.
 


Originally posted by Tyger
is largely caused by thermally created hole-electron pairs, to reduce them cool the diode.

Great... except your avoiding my question. Can you increase the signal to noise ratio by making the area smaller?

eNtRopY
 


Originally posted by eNtRopY
Great... except your avoiding my question. Can you increase the signal to noise ratio by making the area smaller?

eNtRopY

Sorry, didn't mean to do that! Sounds probable, maybe the mfr. will supply noise data on the diodes, I'm sure a lot of that stuff is on line now. Also, reverse biasing the diode slightly might reduce the thermal effect. At least it's simple to try it. The result may depend somewhat on whether you using a current or voltage amplifier for the signal.
 
I know this might sound simple but ever think about adding a 1k resistor in series to reduce its current. better yet, install a variable resistor to limit the current (like an extra intensity button). Just an idea, also don't forget to take into consideration the wattage suppiled don't want you using a 1/4W when you should be using a 1W resistor.
Dx :wink:
 

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