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May20-10, 01:24 PM   #171
 

The obesity epidemic


You know folks, it might help sometimes to actually fast. Fasting has sort of gone out of fashion these days, but it was common in earlier times, and is incorporated into many of the world's religions. Fasting for even 48 hours causes growth hormones to be released, which help to control inflammation, promotes muscle over fat deposition, and speeds up healing of damaged tissues. These effects also obtain to some extent when calories are restricted.

See: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0915202236.htm
http://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=f...=1&oi=scholart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4L5Q...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lah7_...eature=related
May20-10, 01:42 PM   #172
 
There is a better way - eat more fiber, eat RAW foods, at least those that can be eaten raw, do not cook veggies, that destroys vitamins, drink a lot of water, don't eat white bread but whole grain, don't eat after 8 pm and exercise regularly

Meat is important, especially red meat, as it is the only source of Acetyl-L Carnitine which cannot be synthesized by the body and is one of the few good chemicals that is able to pass the blood-brain barrier plus it is a transport protein for long chain fats, which cannot pass the cell membrane by themselves and thus are very hard to burn.
May20-10, 01:51 PM   #173
 
Blah, blah, blah, fancy pseudo-scientific 'fitness' advice, blah.

Eat less crap. Eat more veggies. Try to move around more. That's really it. I get ridiculously angry when people start to complicate the hell out of what should be a simple process. If you're a professional body builder, that's one thing, but the chubby chump who just walked out of GNC with hundreds of dollars worth of 'muscle fuel'? Bah!
May20-10, 02:46 PM   #174
 
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Quote by dgtech View Post
There is a better way - eat more fiber, eat RAW foods, at least those that can be eaten raw, do not cook veggies, that destroys vitamins, drink a lot of water, don't eat white bread but whole grain, don't eat after 8 pm and exercise regularly

Meat is important, especially red meat, as it is the only source of Acetyl-L Carnitine which cannot be synthesized by the body and is one of the few good chemicals that is able to pass the blood-brain barrier plus it is a transport protein for long chain fats, which cannot pass the cell membrane by themselves and thus are very hard to burn.
uh, yeah, everything you said is wrong. cooking can make nutrients more available and we synthesize alcar just fine.
May20-10, 03:05 PM   #175
 
Cooking concentrates fats into longer chains which are harder to burn and temperature destroys vitamins. The link you posted actually supports most of the things I said and says nothing about synthesis in the human body.

If anything, it says "INGESTION" which means you eat it, not synthesize it

Humans can synthesize L-carnitine but can't acetylate it, that's what I've been taught at school and if if you have information suggesting otherwise, I'd be happy to fix that eventual educational mistake ;)
May20-10, 03:15 PM   #176
 
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Quote by dgtech View Post
Cooking concentrates fats into longer chains which are harder to burn and temperature destroys vitamins. The link you posted actually supports most of the things I said and says nothing about synthesis in the human body.

If anything, it says "INGESTION" which means you eat it, not synthesize it

Humans can synthesize L-carnitine but can't acetylate it, that's what I've been taught at school and if if you have information suggesting otherwise, I'd be happy to fix that eventual educational mistake ;)
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ALCAR is an acetylated derivative of L-carnitine. During strenuous exercise, a large portion of L-carnitine and unused acetyl-CoA are converted to ALCAR inside mitochondria by carnitine O-acetyltransferase.[1]
you might also want to look up the meaning of the word endogenous

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19720100
Adv Drug Deliv Rev. 2009 Nov 30;61(14):1332-42. Epub 2009 Aug 29.
Mitochondria in the elderly: Is acetylcarnitine a rejuvenator?

Rosca MG, Lemieux H, Hoppel CL.

Center for Mitochondrial Diseases and Department of Medicine, Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, USA.
Abstract

Endogenous acetylcarnitine is an indicator of acetyl-CoA synthesized by multiple metabolic pathways involving carbohydrates, amino acids, fatty acids, sterols, and ketone bodies, and utilized mainly by the tricarboxylic acid cycle. Acetylcarnitine supplementation has beneficial effects in elderly animals and humans, including restoration of mitochondrial content and function. These effects appear to be dose-dependent and occur even after short-term therapy. In order to set the stage for understanding the mechanism of action of acetylcarnitine, we review the metabolism and role of this compound. We suggest that acetylation of mitochondrial proteins leads to a specific increase in mitochondrial gene expression and mitochondrial protein synthesis. In the aged rat heart, this effect is translated to increased cytochrome b content, restoration of complex III activity, and oxidative phosphorylation, resulting in amelioration of the age-related mitochondrial defect.

PMID: 19720100 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
May20-10, 06:24 PM   #177
 
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Congrats!! What do you win besides a hot body?
$200. My birthday is on the 27th, the day of the final weigh-in. Every year, we celebrate my birthday and Memorial Day by going to Long Beach Island and have steamed lobsters. This year I expect they'll be extra sweet.
May20-10, 06:30 PM   #178
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$200. My birthday is on the 27th, the day of the final weigh-in. Every year, we celebrate my birthday and Memorial Day by going to Long Beach Island and have steamed lobsters. This year I expect they'll be extra sweet.
Victory is sweet!
May20-10, 06:32 PM   #179
 
Jimmy no longer qualifies for a free meal here
May20-10, 07:40 PM   #180
 
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Jimmy no longer qualifies for a free meal here
I never did. I see that part of the marketing strategy is to induce the PC crowd to do their advertising for them. It seems to be working. Hooray for them, I say.
May27-10, 11:14 AM   #181
 
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I gained a few grams this morning in the form of twenty dollar bills.
May27-10, 11:56 AM   #182
 
Congratulations Jimmy.
Mar4-11, 10:00 AM   #183
 
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Jimmy no longer qualifies for a free meal here
"Here" being the Heart Attack Grill. Their spokesman, a 575-pound, 29-year-old man, died Tuesday -- not of a heart attack, but of pneumonia.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41899470/ns/today-food/

Good grief, his BMI was 63.

This may be a silly question but is obesity a risk factor for pneumonia?
Mar4-11, 12:18 PM   #184
 
There is some evidence out there that obesity may impair immune function.
Mar4-11, 01:23 PM   #185
 
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"Here" being the Heart Attack Grill. Their spokesman, a 575-pound, 29-year-old man, died Tuesday -- not of a heart attack, but of pneumonia.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41899470/ns/today-food/

Good grief, his BMI was 63.

This may be a silly question but is obesity a risk factor for pneumonia?
It is a risk factor for almost everything... and at that weight I'd assume sleep apnea of some severity... also a risk factor.


575... my g-d... and 63 BMI?.... I find that sad.

I myself fell to precipitous weight gain, but am in the process of reversing that. I don't weigh anything like 575, I'm 6'2" with a broad frame... and I don't think I could WALK at that weight!

Surely that kind of eating and lack of activity is nothing if not passive suicide.
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