Does the Volume of a Solid Depend on Point of Tangency?

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem concerning the volume of a solid defined by the coordinate planes and a tangent plane to the surface described by the equation xyz = k in the first octant. Participants explore whether the volume depends on the point of tangency and seek clarification on the steps to derive the volume expression.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in demonstrating that the volume of the solid does not depend on the point of tangency.
  • Another participant suggests that the volume is 9k/2 and provides a hint about finding the normal vector using the gradient.
  • A different participant expresses confusion about the problem and requests a step-by-step explanation of how the volume was calculated.
  • One participant outlines a method to find the normal vector and derive the equation of the tangent plane, detailing the steps to calculate the volume of the solid.
  • The final participant thanks the contributor for their help, indicating a collaborative effort in understanding the problem.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the problem's solution, as one participant claims a specific volume while others express confusion and seek clarification on the steps involved.

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Participants' responses indicate varying levels of understanding and assumptions about the problem, with some steps in the mathematical reasoning remaining unresolved or unclear to others.

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Students or individuals interested in mathematical problems related to geometry, calculus, or solid volumes may find this discussion beneficial.

iceman
Hi,
I need help on this problem which is giving me a few headaches...!

here goes..

Show that the volume of the solid bounded by the coordinate planes and the plane tangent to the portion of the surface xyz = k, k>0, in the first octant does not depend on the point of tangency.

Your help will be much appreciated.
 
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OK, i think i have the answer. i make it 9k/2. how much help do you want?

my first hint: the normal to that surface can be found by taking the gradient.
 
Hi lethe,

I am totally lost on this question to be honest and I can't seem to work out what to do here to solve it. I would really appreciate it if you could explain step by step what you are doing so I can understand how you came to your conclusion and your answer.

eg. how you came to your answer of 9k/2.

and also your hint: the normal to that surface can be found by taking the gradient.

How would you go about solving this?

Your help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
 
OK:

step 1: the gradient of xyz - k gives you the normal vector to the surface.

the gradient is (yz,xz,xy)

step 2: the equation for a plane with normal vector n is n*(x-x0)=0

so the equation for the tangent plane at x0 is y0z0(x-x0)+x0z0(y-y0)+x0y0(z-z0)=0

or

x/x0 + y/y0 + z/z0 = 3

step 3: find the three coordinate intercepts of this plane by plugging in x=y=0 and get z=30, then x=z=0 and get y=3y0, and x=3x0

step 4: calculate the volume. it is a right pyramid, the base has legs 3x0 and 3y0, so the area of the base is 9x0y0/2. the area for a pyramid is 1/3*Base*height, so this is 9x0y0z0/2, but since x0 is on the surface, x0y0z0 = k, and we get 9k/2 for the volume
 
Hey thanks for your help lethe!

Regards
Iceman
 

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