Simple Harmonic Motion Brain Teaser

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The discussion focuses on deriving the angular frequency (ω) and amplitude (A) of a particle undergoing simple harmonic motion (SHM) using given displacements (x1, x2) and velocities (v1, v2). The equations of motion are provided, specifically x(t) = A sin(ωt + φ) and dx/dt = Aω cos(ωt + φ). By substituting the known values into these equations, participants conclude that it is possible to eliminate time variables (t1, t2) and solve for ω and A through algebraic manipulation of the relationships established between the displacements and velocities.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of simple harmonic motion (SHM) principles
  • Familiarity with trigonometric functions and their derivatives
  • Basic algebraic manipulation skills
  • Knowledge of angular frequency and amplitude in oscillatory motion
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  • Study the derivation of angular frequency in simple harmonic motion
  • Explore the relationship between displacement and velocity in SHM
  • Learn about phase constants in oscillatory motion
  • Investigate the implications of initial conditions on SHM parameters
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Students of classical mechanics, physics educators, and anyone interested in the mathematical foundations of oscillatory motion will benefit from this discussion.

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I saw this in an old, junior-level, classical mechanics
textbook and haven't been able to figure it out.

A particle undergoing simple harmonic motion has a velocity:

[tex]\frac{dx_1}{dt}[/tex]

when the displacement is:

[tex]x_1[/tex]

and a velocity

[tex]\frac{dx_2}{dt}[/tex]

when the displacement is:

[tex]x_2[/tex]

What is the angular frequency and the amplitude of the motion in terms of the given quantities?

I know the solution to the SHM wave equation is:

[tex]\begin{equation}<br /> x(t) = A \cdot sin( \omega t + \phi )\end{equation}[/tex]

And that:

[tex]\begin{equation}<br /> dx(t)/dt = A \omega \cdot cos( \omega t + \phi )\end{equation}[/tex]

But can't see how to express omega or A in these terms.
 
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If x = A.sin(w.t) then

x1 = A sin(w.t1)
x2 = A.sin(w.t2)
dx/dt 1= A.w.cos(w.t1)
dx/dt 2 = A.w.cos(w.t2)

I am not going to do it but there appears to be enough information , to eliminate t1,t2 and get A and w.
For instance a) and c) can eliminate t1 , b) and d) eliminate t2 .
 
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cj said:
But can't see how to express omega or A in these terms.
Apply what you know. I'll get you started. You are given: At time [itex]t_1[/itex] the displacement is [itex]x_1[/itex] and the speed is [itex]v_1[/itex]. (I didn't like your notation, so I changed it. :smile: )

So... just plug into your SHM equations:
[itex]x_1 = A sin(\omega t_1)[/itex]
[itex]v_1 = A \omega cos(\omega t_1)[/itex]
Combine these equations to get a relationship between [itex]\omega[/itex] and A.

Now do the same for time [itex]t_2[/itex], and then you should be able to solve for [itex]\omega[/itex] and A.
 

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