Confusion: A Necessary and Adaptive Mental State?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of confusion as a fundamental aspect of human cognition, contrasting it with computer processing. Participants explore the nature of confusion, its implications for thought processes, and the differences between human and computer responses to confusion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a key function of the mind is to manage confusion, highlighting the ability of humans to think through confusion compared to computers, which may "hang" when faced with it.
  • Another participant argues that while the human mind can process confusion, it can also become overwhelmed and may isolate confusing experiences, indicating that confusion can lead to ineffective processing.
  • A different viewpoint posits that the human mind is capable of drawing from a vast repository of concepts to navigate confusion, unlike computers which follow linear paths and require predefined solutions to obstacles.
  • One participant humorously interjects with a reference to narcolepsy, possibly to illustrate the complexities of mental states related to confusion.
  • A later reply questions whether the mind reduces confusion or merely copes with it, suggesting that the perception of confusion may depend on one's perspective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature and role of confusion in human cognition, with no consensus reached on whether the mind effectively reduces confusion or simply copes with it.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the limitations of their understanding of terminology, which may affect the depth of the discussion. Additionally, the complexity of the human mind and its processing capabilities is acknowledged but not fully resolved.

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Hi guys I just wanted to throw an idea into the ring for you to tear to shreads if so inclined.

The idea being that one of the most important functions of the mind is to deal with confusion.

The main distinction that sets a computer (binary system) from a human mind ( a trinary system??) is that we have the ability to be confused and yet continue to think through this confusion.

A computer will hang when confused but a mind will keep on thinking.

Care to discuss?

BTW I have limited knowledge of terminology so I would rather read your posts than mine... :D
 
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while this is somewhat correct, don't be fooled. the human mind, when confronted with something it can in no sense relate, it will be very confused and either try to refute it, or will store it as a totally isolated event... (this quite rarely happens, but really, it would take the brain quite a lot of processing to get it right, it might not even get it rigth at all)...
a large part of the effectiveness of the human mind comes from it's ability to learn concepts and charactaristica... it can gather characteristics and apply them to something it sees in order to understand it... computers don't have this ability...
anyway, the main reason computers keeps on thinking, is because they are highly linear... this means that it follows a road with one single track that is pointed out to it, and if it reaches an obstacle, it can't get any further unless it's already got a solution to getting across the obstacle...
the human mind is a neurological curcuit with an immense amount of roads it can use... while mainly (mainly, not totally) just being capable of processing one thing at a time (quite unlike a computer, which can perform many linear operations in parallel), it is capable of drawing solutions to a problem from it's large repository of charactaristica and concepts, and if that doesn't work, it is capable of simply choosing another road so it won't be stuck...
there are several ways to confuse a human quite effectively though, and for good... a human brain can go in circles just like a computer, it just takes quite a lot to get it there...
 
Confuscian say, Narcolepsy! :biggrin:
 
Scott Sieger said:
Hi guys I just wanted to throw an idea into the ring for you to tear to shreads if so inclined.

The idea being that one of the most important functions of the mind is to deal with confusion.

The main distinction that sets a computer (binary system) from a human mind ( a trinary system??) is that we have the ability to be confused and yet continue to think through this confusion.

A computer will hang when confused but a mind will keep on thinking.

Care to discuss?

BTW I have limited knowledge of terminology so I would rather read your posts than mine... :D

I'd have to say yes and no. The mind itself is actually immensely confusing, but it often does manage to make remarkably useful sense out of the world around it in comparison to other animals, your home computer, or whatever. Is it really reducing the confusion, or merely coping with the confusion of the world around it as well as it's own internal confusion well enough to survive?

Apparently it just depends upon how you want to look at the issue.
 

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