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water and plasma!!!

 
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Feb17-12, 04:31 AM   #18
 
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water and plasma!!!


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Similarly, in theory, there is a definitive temperature at which water vapor will have no choice but to enter a plasma state.
No, phase transitions occur at well defined temperatures, ionization degree changes gradually with temperature. These are completely different and unrelated situations.
 
Mar24-12, 12:22 PM   #19
 
You should check out the concept of a plasma scalpel, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7109809
This is now used in surgery. It is a plasma is liquid. It forms is an bubble in the liquid.
So plasma in water or other liquids is not only possible but now used in hospitals.

The reason this is possible is because many real plasma are in non equilibrium. This means that temperature is not defined.

Also there is a clear definition of what is a plasma and what is not. Many flames are not actually plasmas as they are hot enough to ionize the gas but the denity of charged particles is not high enough for the particles to act collectively. This collective action is the key to a plasma.
 
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