Has anyone here ever been abducted by aliens?


by eNtRopY
Tags: abducted, aliens
Jonathan
Jonathan is offline
#19
Jul31-03, 01:26 PM
Jonathan's Avatar
P: 493
Yes, he was schizophrenic, I don't remember his name either, but the actor was Russel Crowe.
Anyway, I wanted to add that sleep paralysis is also known to cause hallucinations of bizarre/evil/disturbing sexual events, but thankfully I don't remember any of the details.
Back to the original topic, my uncle MAY have been abducted. I don't have many details on that, he wouldn't tell me/didn't remember. All I know is that he woke up in the middle of the night, went to the bathroom, for reasons beyond me, used the bathroom without turning on the light, then saw a bright light through the window, and then remmebers waking up with his arm underneath him in and unusual and uncomfortable position. That's all I know the only thing that lends any credit to the story is that he and my mom have a history of paranormal experiences.
zoobyshoe
zoobyshoe is offline
#20
Jul31-03, 02:28 PM
zoobyshoe's Avatar
P: 5,616
Complex partial seizure with onset
in the occipetal lobe.
Jonathan
Jonathan is offline
#21
Aug1-03, 01:44 PM
Jonathan's Avatar
P: 493
...it just occured to me that my previous comment (regarding sleep paralysis) seemed to imply that I've experienced sleep paralysis, but I don't think I have. The 'not remembering the details' referred to details mentioned on a TV show, not my experience.
(to) Ivan Seeking: It must now be becoming apparent to you that I watch lots of TV.
zoobyshoe
zoobyshoe is offline
#22
Aug1-03, 02:01 PM
zoobyshoe's Avatar
P: 5,616
Johnathan,

I'm glad you clarified that because from the way you phrased
your thankfullness for not re-
membering the details I did, indeed, get the impression you
were talking about something that
had happened to you.

I just remembered that there is another common hallucination
people have during sleep paralysis
which is "The Hag". In this ex-
perience the person finds they
are being held down by a hideous
old woman sitting on their chest
often trying to choke them, and
saying things like "You're dead!"

The interesting thing about "The
Hag" is that she is cross cultural
People in all countries around the
world have had encounters.

-zoob
Jonathan
Jonathan is offline
#23
Aug2-03, 04:21 AM
Jonathan's Avatar
P: 493
Yes, that's what I mean! I think the Hag is our translation of a Scandanavian term, I don't know of any other cultures describing the experience like that. If it's a world wide thing (I think it is) I think it is that way just because people are the same world round, like how many people have suffered from the same disease. I don't think the world wide experience of the Hag proves she is real in some sense if that is what you were implying in your last paragraph.
russ_watters
russ_watters is online now
#24
Aug2-03, 08:01 PM
Mentor
P: 22,008
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
Why do you think you can tell the difference between sleep paralysis but that others can't?
Simple. Moulder has the poster behind his desk: "I WANT TO BELIEVE."
Ivan Seeking
Ivan Seeking is offline
#25
Aug2-03, 09:33 PM
Emeritus
Sci Advisor
PF Gold
Ivan Seeking's Avatar
P: 12,493
Originally posted by russ_watters
Simple. Moulder has the poster behind his desk: "I WANT TO BELIEVE."
As opposed to:
Only my experiences are real; if they're not mine, then they're not real.
zoobyshoe
zoobyshoe is offline
#26
Aug2-03, 09:57 PM
zoobyshoe's Avatar
P: 5,616
Jonathan:

No, I didn't mean to assert The
Hag was real at all. The interest-
ing thing to me is that she doesn't just appear to people in
western cultures but also to asians.

The fact this is so does more to
errode the validity of Alien
Abduction than to affirm the val-
idity of any of it. It suggests
something much more like what you
are suggesting: that people have
certain "types" of tormentors
hardwired into their unconscious-
nesses, and are likely to draw
from these when creating an hall-
ucination to account for what is
paralyzing them.

In my own case the tormentor
took shape as "The Sniggering
Man", which, as far as I know, is
unique to me, but there could be
hundreds of thousands of people
who've hallicinated something
similar that I don't know about.

In cultures where The Hag is
common she is widely believed to
be real, just as Aliens are now,
in certain circles.

-zoob
Sting
Sting is offline
#27
Aug8-03, 01:36 PM
P: 228
I don't remember his name either, but the actor was Russel Crowe.
Off topic: His name is John Nash
eNtRopY
#28
Aug8-03, 01:49 PM
P: n/a
I believe I've told this story before, but once when I was in Dresden, I drank about six glasses of absinthe. Long story short, I blacked out and woke up on a train at 6:00 AM in the next city over. Not being all together, I decided that it would be a good idea to start walking the ten miles back to my hotel. As I was walking, I passed through a forest. I remember I suddenly stood still and looked at the trees. For some reason I was completely enthralled by the trees. Then these trees began to transform into the shape of stereotypical aliens.... Yeah, that was fun.

Anyway, perhaps some reported cases of alien sightings are simply the result of mind-altering drugs.

eNtRopY
Jonathan
Jonathan is offline
#29
Aug8-03, 01:53 PM
Jonathan's Avatar
P: 493
Sting: Yes!, That's the name!
Entrophy: You're nuts.
Zoob: The Hag never went around in space craft, was never shot down by the government, and didn't go around exsanguinating farm animals and one Brasilian man. The Alien/Hag comparison doesn't add up.[:D]
zoobyshoe
zoobyshoe is offline
#30
Aug8-03, 01:56 PM
zoobyshoe's Avatar
P: 5,616
Johnathan;

Aliens are the Hag's flying
monkeys.

-zoob
eNtRopY
#31
Aug8-03, 03:23 PM
P: n/a
Originally posted by Jonathan
Entrophy [sic]: You're nuts.
Jonathan: No, I am normal. You are nuts.

eNtRopY
Ivan Seeking
Ivan Seeking is offline
#32
Aug8-03, 03:55 PM
Emeritus
Sci Advisor
PF Gold
Ivan Seeking's Avatar
P: 12,493
I drank about six glasses of absinthe. Long story short, I blacked out and woke up on a train at 6:00 AM in the next city over.
[:D]
username
username is offline
#33
Aug10-03, 03:25 PM
P: 234
guess this is hard for me to relate to since, as far as I know, reality has never betrayed me in such a way. I don't think I have ever actually hallucinated...except perhaps when I was on morphine in the hospital...at least I was told that I hallucinated but I don't remember a thing!
Hehe exactly the same for me but it happened on the come down. There have been other times in my past but hallucination was expected ( my vision has never been quite the same :/ )
zoobyshoe
zoobyshoe is offline
#34
Aug11-03, 01:52 PM
zoobyshoe's Avatar
P: 5,616
Here's a comprhensive essay about
"The Hag" and sleep paralysis by
a sufferer who has done alot of
homework. Very interesting history:

What is Sleep Paralysis
Address:http://sleepparalysis.dnswh.com/what..._paralysis.htm Changed:11:39 AM on Monday, August 11, 2003

-zoob


Register to reply

Related Discussions
Aliens - Are they out there? General Discussion 37
how many different alien forms are there? General Discussion 26
Why are only the thickest Americans 'abducted'? General Discussion 20
Aliens General Discussion 8
Aliens are here? General Discussion 42