What is the moment of inertia for a rotating disk with a hanging mass?

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The problem involves calculating the moment of inertia for a rotating disk that is influenced by a hanging mass. The disk is described as being free to rotate about its center, and the scenario includes a mass pulling on the disk via a string. The parameters given include the mass, radius of the disk, and the distance the mass falls over a specified time.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the method for calculating moment of inertia, questioning the correctness of formulas used for acceleration and velocity. There is confusion regarding the orientation of the disk and how it affects the calculations. Various attempts to derive acceleration and angular acceleration are presented, with some participants correcting each other on the appropriate formulas.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and correcting each other's approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the formulas for acceleration, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct value of the moment of inertia yet.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the disk's axis of rotation may be either vertical or horizontal, which affects their calculations. There is also a noted discrepancy in the calculated values for moment of inertia, leading to further questioning of the methods used.

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This problem is giving me a headache.

A disk is free to rotate about its center(frictionless) in a vertical axis. A mass m=30grams, pulls down on the disk by means of a light string that is wrapped around the disk. If the radius is 20 cm, Find "I" if the mass falls 1 meter in 2 sec.

We used rT=I(a/r)

so you get .2(.03*9.8)=I(.25/.2)

found velocity using v=s/t

and acceleration using a=v/t

Is this correct? the value for inertia I get is .045 kg m/sec^2

the book has .0222 kg m/s^2
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This is a little confusing ? Is the axis of the disc vertical or horizontal. If it really is vertical, I can't see how exactly the mass hangs off the edge.

If it is horizontal, then the approach you use is correct except for your calculation of the acceleration (a) of the mass.

You say, v = s/t and a = v/t . This is incorrect. The first expression gives you the average velocity while the second relies on the final velocity.

What is the correct equation for finding 'a' given s, t ? Of course, the initial velocity, u = 0. If you make this correction (using the right equation) you will find that you get I = 0.022 kg.m^2 (not kg.m/s^2, which is the unit of force)
 
using wrong formula for accel and velocity?

I am using v=s/t to get .5 m/s

then using vf^2=Vi^2 + 2*a*s

to get .125 m/s^2...?
using this we divide by the radius of .2 to get angular accel. of .625rad/s^2

I am not seeing something.

Thanks again for all your help
 
oops again

sorry, now I believe that I am using the right formula,,,

s=vi*t+1/2a*t^2

to get a=.5
Ang a= 2.5

then I get I=.0235?
 
Yup, that's it. But you're right...it's 0.0235. Now I wonder why that little difference is there ? I'm not sure...but it looks okay, as long as the axis IS HORIZONTAL ! :biggrin:
 

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