Understand Related Rates: Calculus Review

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around understanding the application of related rates in calculus, specifically how to differentiate equations with respect to time. Participants explore the use of the chain rule in this context and clarify the notation involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about differentiating both sides of an equation with respect to time, using the example of tan(x) = y/50.
  • Another participant points out that both x and y are functions of time, suggesting the use of the chain rule for differentiation.
  • A third participant reinforces the previous point, recommending that x and y be explicitly written as functions of time (x(t) and y(t)) to clarify the differentiation process.
  • A later reply acknowledges a misunderstanding of the chain rule and expresses gratitude for the clarification provided by others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of using the chain rule when differentiating equations involving functions of time, but the initial confusion indicates that understanding may vary among individuals.

Contextual Notes

There may be limitations in the participants' understanding of the chain rule and its application to related rates, as well as potential confusion regarding notation and function dependence on time.

Who May Find This Useful

Students learning calculus, particularly those focusing on related rates and differentiation techniques.

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i don't really understand when you differentiate both sides of an equation to, for example, time.

like, if you have tan(x)=y/50,
you would get sec^2(x)dx/dt=1/50*(dy/dt)
so does that mean when you differentiate both sides you find the derivative of the whole term and then multiply it by dwhatever/dt?

the book I am looking at is just a review for calculus, its only got a short sentence here about this, and its confusing
 
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Well, both x and y are functions of time.
Hence, you use the chain rule when differentiating the equation
 
Yes, use the chain rule like arildno mentioned. For the problem you gave, you are thinking of x and y as functions of t. You can make this more explicit by replacing "x" with "x(t)" and "y" with "y(t)". The differentiate w.r.t time as normal. When this dependence on t is understood, texts will sometimes supress the (t) part of the notation to make things neater, like the example you gave.
 
oh my... lol thankyou :-P I am new with calc-learnin it myself this summer-and managed to remember the chain rule wrong. haha thanks guys
 

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