Addition of three angular momentum

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The discussion revolves around the coupling of three angular momentum states, specifically how to construct eigenstates of total angular momentum for three particles represented as J = j_1 + j_2 + j_3. Participants express confusion and seek clarification on the methods involved in this process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to couple three angular momentum states and seeks assistance in building eigenstates of total angular momentum.
  • Another participant suggests that if one can add two angular momentum states, then adding a third should not pose a problem, proposing a method using tensor products.
  • A question is raised about whether it is equivalent to first couple j_1 and j_2, then j_12 with j_3, or to couple j_2 and j_3 first, then j_1 with j_23.
  • It is noted that the tensor product is associative, implying that the order of coupling does not affect the final result.
  • Further clarification indicates that different coupling sequences may lead to different representations of the total angular momentum states, and the complexity of the algebra increases significantly with more particles.
  • One participant references the use of Clebsch-Gordan coefficients and 3-j symbols for coupling three angular momenta, mentioning the work of G. Racah and recommending a specific text on the subject.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods of coupling angular momentum but express differing views on the implications of the order of coupling and the complexity involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to couple three angular momenta.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the challenges of managing multiple angular momentum states and the potential for different representations based on the coupling order. There is an acknowledgment of the increasing complexity with additional particles and the reliance on specific mathematical tools.

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How can I couple three angular momentum?
I am confused about this, in fact I don't understand how can I do this...
I need to build eigenstates of total angular momentum for three particles J=j_1+j_2+j_3, someone can help me?

Thank's
 
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If you can add two angular momentum, I don't see any problem. If you are able to deal with [tex]j_1[/tex] and [tex]j_2[/tex], say [tex]J_{dummy} = j_1 \otimes j_2[/tex] then the remaining is [tex]J= J_{dummy} \otimes j_3[/tex] :biggrin:

Of course, it is easy to speak of the general [tex]j_1 \otimes j_2[/tex] without any specific value for them, whereas giving the general properties of [tex]j_1 \otimes j_2 \otimes j_3 \otimes j_4 \otimes j_5 \otimes j_6 \cdots[/tex] would not only be difficult, it would be useless.
 
Ok, but is it the same way to couple j_12=j_1+j_2 and then J=j_12+j_3 or first j_23=j_2+j_3 and then J=j_1+j_23 ?
 
yes ! The tensor product is associative.
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Tensor_algebra
Hey, welcome in PF by the way !
 
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stefano said:
Ok, but is it the same way to couple j_12=j_1+j_2 and then J=j_12+j_3 or first j_23=j_2+j_3 and then J=j_1+j_23 ?

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Yes but, you will get different representations of states of total J. humanino is right, if you can couple 2, then you can couple 3 or ... But, the algebra becomes horrific, and ... We are talking Clebsch-Gordan coefficients applied to Clebsch-Gordan coefficients, which really gets ugly for 6 or 12 individual particles. However, there's a lot of very elegant work , much due to G. Racah, that makes coupling of angular momenta much less formidable. (For coupling three angular momenta, one works with a 3-j symbol, a specially normalized and symmetrized set/product of CG coefficients.) For me the bible is Edmonds' Angular Momentum in Quantum Mechanics, but it is old.
I'm sure a Google will produce lots on the subject.
Regards,
Reilly Atkinson
 
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