Solving the Mystery of M1 and M2: What is the Equation for?

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The discussion revolves around an equation involving variables M1, M2, T1, and T2, with participants exploring its potential meaning and applications. The context includes theoretical interpretations and possible physical applications, particularly in relation to mass and tension.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that M represents mass and T represents tension, but the exact application of the equation is unclear.
  • One participant suggests that the equation could imply that "mass is proportional to the square of the tension," or vice versa.
  • Another participant speculates that T might represent the period of oscillation in a spring-mass system, linking it to the mass.
  • There is a question about whether the equation represents two separate equations or a single equation formatted in two parts.
  • One participant proposes a proportionality statement: M1/M2 = T1^2/T2^2, indicating a potential relationship between the variables.
  • Another participant considers the possibility of T representing kinetic energy, though they note insufficient data to confirm this.
  • One participant speculates that the variables might relate to concentration and temperature but dismisses this after attempting to derive it using gas laws.
  • There is a humorous exchange regarding politeness and the tone of the discussion, which does not directly relate to the equation itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the meaning and application of the equation. There is no consensus on its interpretation or the specific context from which it originates.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of context for the equation, which limits their ability to derive its meaning or application. There are also unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of the variables involved.

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ok so I've got this equation

M1 = T1^2
M2 __T2^2
the _s are only for spacing purposes
can anyone tell me what it is for?

I think the M is mass and the T is tension but I really have no idea
 
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One can make up equations for anything- and different applications might give the same equation. I can't imagine starting from an equation and the asking what the application is!

I think the best one can say here is that "mass is proportional to the square of the tension" (or "tension is proportional to the square root of the mass).
 
jomuk said:
ok so I've got this equation

M1 = T1^2
M2 __T2^2
the _s are only for spacing purposes
can anyone tell me what it is for?

I think the M is mass and the T is tension but I really have no idea

Hallsofivy was being too polite. I would criticize you for not, at the very least, put the equation you found in some context, i.e. WHERE did you find this expression? Under what topic/chapter/subject/supermarket tabloid/etc. was it written? It can't just appear out of nowhere.

Having said that, I will put one possible, consistent guess: T is the period of oscillation of a spring-mass system, and M is the mass. This is because the period of that system is given by

[tex]T = 2\pi \sqrt{\frac{M}{k}}[/tex]

Zz.
 
lol for some application in calualte the tension needed in each wire/rope for that particular mass?
 
jomuk said:
ok so I've got this equation

M1 = T1^2
M2 __T2^2
the _s are only for spacing purposes
can anyone tell me what it is for?

I think the M is mass and the T is tension but I really have no idea

are these two equations or one equation written on two spaces?
do you mean"
[tex]M_1 = {T_1}^2 {M_2}{T_2}^2[/tex]
 
Nenad said:
are these two equations or one equation written on two spaces?
do you mean"
[tex]M_1 = {T_1}^2 {M_2}{T_2}^2[/tex]
I presume he meant it as a statement of proportionality:
[tex]\frac{M_1}{M_2} = \frac{T_1^2}{T_2^2}[/tex]

The only thing that rings a bell is what ZapperZ suggested.
 
Doc Al said:
I presume he meant it as a statement of proportionality:
[tex]\frac{M_1}{M_2} = \frac{T_1^2}{T_2^2}[/tex]

The only thing that rings a bell is what ZapperZ suggested.

T could be kinetic energy, but there's really not enough data to know.
 
I was thinking it might be concentration and temperature...but i really don't think it is after trying to derive it using gas laws.
 
ZapperZ said:
Hallsofivy was being too polite.
Zz.

WHAT! Someone is accusing me of being polite!
 
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HallsofIvy said:
WHAT! Someone is accusing me of being polite!

Damn right I did! And don't let me catch you doing that again!

:)

Zz.
 
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Think I should give Halls a warning? :smile:
 
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looks like an expression of inversed perportions
 

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