What is the radius of a circle represented by the equation |z - z1|=k|z - z2|?

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The discussion revolves around the geometric interpretation of the equation |z - z1|=k|z - z2|, which is suggested to represent a circle under certain conditions. Participants explore the implications of the parameter k and its effect on the shape of the locus defined by the equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss rewriting the equation to fit the standard form of a circle and share their attempts at deriving the radius. There are considerations of symmetry regarding the line connecting z1 and z2, and questions arise about the implications of the center of the circle in relation to this line.

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The discussion is active with multiple approaches being explored. Some participants have proposed equations for the radius based on their interpretations, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the geometry involved. There is no explicit consensus, but productive dialogue is ongoing.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the fixed points z1 and z2, and the implications of the value of k on the nature of the solution. There is also mention of the symmetry of the problem and its effect on the potential solutions.

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In general, |z - zo|=r, where z_o is a fixed point and r is a positive number, represents a circle centered at z_o and with radius r. |z - z1|=k|z - z2|, where z_1 and z_2 are fixed points, also apparently represents a circle, except maybe in the case where k=1. Then we have a line, or a circle of infinite radius. So to find the radius of the circle for |z - z1|=k|z - z2|, I could try to rewrite the equation to fit |z - zo|=r. I did this, and I got a frightening answer. I shall attempt to show it here. The work is much too long and too tedious to write here in full form but I'll explain briefly. x is the x component of z, y is the y component of z, x_1 is the x component of z_1, y_1...y component of z_1, etc.
Square both sides, distribute the k^2, collect x's and y's on the left, complete the square to get (x-somthing)^2+(y-same thing)^2=some big mess
simplify the right hand side, rewrite in terms of z1 and z2 as much as possible, take the sqrt of each side,

Anyone who feels like trying this problem could verify my result/ show me a better way of doing it?
r=(k2-1)-1[squ][(k4-2k2+2)|z1|2+k2(2k2-1)|z2|2-2k2(x1x2+y1y2)]
 
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Hi StephenPrivitera,
the problem is surely symmetrical wrt. the line Z1 Z2.
So let's look at this line, and the 2 points A, B where the circle intersects it (points=capital, distances=small):

Z1------ka------A----a---Z2-----b-----B
|------------------kb-----------------|

Let |Z1 - Z2| = d.
From the drawing, we see:
I. d = ka + a
II. b + d = kb
III. 2r = a+b.

Three unknowns: a, b, r.
Three equations: Perfect!
 
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Really there are four unknowns, a,b,r, and d. If you substitute in for d, then there are two equations and three unknowns. You can solve for r in terms of b or a. I did it for a and got,
r=(1/2)a/(k-1)

Also, how do you know that the diameter lies on the line z1z2?
 
You know the value of d, because you know Z1 and Z2. I defined d = |Z1 - Z2|.

Concerning the symmetry: It's clear that the circle can have only 2 points in common with the line Z1 Z2. Let's assume the center C is not on Z1 Z2. Now take the mirror image C' of C wrt. to the line Z1 Z2. The circle centered at C', and going through A, B is obviously another possible solution. Now, since you stated that the circle is defined by the given equation, this is a contradiction. Thus, C is on Z1 Z2.
 
good point, so rather than eliminating d, i should eliminate a and b;

r=dk/(k2-1)
tricky
I'm still upset the other way didn't work... There was a (k2-1)-1 factor there. Maybe the numerator can simplify somehow to dk. I'll try it again. Thanks for the help.
 
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Originally posted by StephenPrivitera
r=dk/(k2-1)
Correct.
Glad I could help you :wink:.
 

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