Building an Observatory for Your Astronomy Club: Tips and Considerations

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The discussion revolves around considerations for building a small observatory for an astronomy club. Participants explore various aspects including funding, design options, equipment choices, and the overall functionality of the observatory. The conversation includes suggestions for different budget levels and the potential for future expansion.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest purchasing land or seeking donations for the observatory site.
  • Warren proposes various equipment options based on budget levels, ranging from a small shed with a roll-off roof to a fully automated observatory dome with advanced features.
  • Another participant mentions the possibility of building a roll-top observatory with the help of a high school shop class to save costs.
  • Abigale questions the differences between observatory domes and sheds, particularly regarding space and functionality for group activities.
  • Warren explains that domes allow for permanent telescope setups and are generally more spacious than sheds, which may require dismantling equipment after use.
  • Participants discuss the need for designs or plans for building sheds, with a suggestion to consult local colleges or universities for insights on observatory setups.
  • Gale provides a link to a site listing dome manufacturers and mentions a specific price for a fiberglass dome.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best approach to building the observatory, including the choice between domes and sheds, and the feasibility of DIY construction versus purchasing ready-made structures. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal design and equipment choices.

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Participants have not reached consensus on specific designs or equipment, and there are varying assumptions about budget constraints and the intended use of the observatory space.

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I know it may be ambitious, but my astronomy club is considering building a small observatory. nothing to special, but something good enough that can be built is a shortish space of time (hopefully a few months in the spring and summer) but can be enlarged or enhanced in the future provided there's space and funding.

we'd like to purhase land, or better have it donated to us, then build something we can observe the sky with. What i ask of anyone here is to throw out considerations we need keep in mind or how we should go about it. Funds shouldn't be too much of an issue, we're all willing to work really hard to fundraise. Any ideas though would be greatly appreciated. anything about location, space needed, the way it should look, how it should be built, anything at all. We'd also like to get a telescope to put in it. so any ideas about that would be great too. I've really got no clue how to go about it, but we're having a meeting tonight to discuss it. Thanks all.

~abigale~
 
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Well, the type of equipment you should get depends heavily on your funding, but I'll give you a couple of ideas:

Idea #1: Tiny Budget

Buy a small shed with a roll-off roof, like these: http://www.skyshed.com/. Pick up a Meade or Orion 12-inch Dobsonian mounted reflector and some good eyepieces. Don't forget to budget for sky maps, books, flashlights, filters, and other accessories.

Idea #2: Modest Budget

Buy a small fully-manual observatory dome. Install a pier, and put one of the many fine German-equatorial mounts on it -- consider Vixen, etc. Avoid full computer control, but get one with a clock drive and an autoguider port for later expansion. Put a nice telescope of your choosing on it. Consider a 12-inch Newtonian from Meade or Orion. Don't forget to budget for sky maps, books, flashlights, filters, and other accessories.

Idea #3: Big Budget

Buy an observatory dome with automatic movement. Install a pier and a nice computer-controlled German equatorial mount like the Paramount from Software Bisque. Put a nice 16-inch or larger Newtonian reflector on it. Put a computer in the dome for controlling the 'scope.

Idea #4: Huge Budget

Buy a large, fully-automated observatory dome. Install a pier and a Paramount. Put a 16-inch Newt on it. Buy a nice CCD camera from SBIG. Build a small observing building a few tens of meters from the observatory dome, and put the computer systems in it, along with a heater. The same PC can control the dome, scope, and camera remotely.

*I am not endorsing SkyShed brand specifically -- many different companies make roll-off buildings, so you should shop around in the back of a Sky & Telescope magazine.

- Warren
 
To save money, you could build a roll top observatory yourself, or possibly get a high school shop class, or vo-tech carpentry class to assemble the building for the cost of materials.

If you are away from civilization, consider a solar panel array and battery system to provide some power to use a few red lights and a white light or two for working on the equipment.

I think a 12" Newtonian on an equatorial mount and a concrete pier. You could buy this from one of the manufacturers that chroot mentioned, or consider building it as a group project (Note: this won't save you much, if any, money, but it is a good learning experience).
 
thanks, so i can actually buy an observatory dome? what does it do really, different than a shed? and possible cost range for that? i looked at a picture from that link you gave me of a guy with a dome who switched to their sheds, and his dome just looks like a giant metal ball. is that what they all look like? is that really better then those shed things? The observatory's for the club, so it has to fit at least a few people in there at a time. Does that change what we should do at all?

also do you know if we could get some designs to build those shed things? because that might be a possibility. or would it just be best to have it built?

also anything else considering that its a group place? are there any other things we can have other than telescopes so that people can be doing different things in the same general area?

thanks
~abigale~
 
Abigale :wink:,

You can certainly just buy a dome -- many places sell them. They are better than sheds because typically a shed doesn't have a very high ceiling, and requires you to tear down the telescope each night to close the roof. A dome allows your telescope to remain set up permanently. If you intend to purchase a fairly large instrument (12 inches or more) and put it on a nice mount, you'll probably need a dome. The shed is really only viable if you're using an essentially portable telescope inside it.

Some sheds will accommodate a decent telescope and two people, but rarely much more. If you fill it full of accessories, it might only fit one person. A dome would be better in this respect.

I don't know where to get plans for a shed, but I'd expect that any competent carpenter could build one for you from scratch pretty easily.

I would suggest that you call up some local colleges or universities that have observatories, and ask them about their setup. You might want to ask for a tour -- you'll learn more in 5 minutes on a tour than you'll learn in hours of discussion here.

- Warren
 
Gale,

Here is a site that has several dome manufacturers listed.

http://www.coseti.org/buydomes.htm

One of the sites sells a 10 ft dia fiberglass dome for about $6,000.
 

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