Solve Quadratic Equation: y^2 - 12y + 32 = 0

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The discussion revolves around solving the quadratic equation y^2 - 12y + 32 = 0. Participants explore different methods for factoring the equation and express their understanding of the steps involved in reaching the factored form.

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  • One participant requests clarification on how to derive (y-8)(y-4) = 0 from the original quadratic equation.
  • Another participant explains that by expanding (y + a)(y + b), they can relate the coefficients to find that a + b = -12 and ab = 32, leading to the conclusion that a and b must be -8 and -4.
  • A different participant suggests that the integers 8 and 4 can be found by considering the products and sums of factors of 32 and 12, respectively.
  • Another participant introduces the method of completing the square, detailing the steps to transform the equation into the form (y-6)^2 - 4 = 0, which leads to the same factored form.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the clarification regarding the relationship between the coefficients and the roots of the quadratic equation.

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Participants present multiple approaches to solving the quadratic equation, including factoring and completing the square. There is no consensus on a single method, as different participants favor different techniques.

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Some participants rely on specific algebraic identities and properties of quadratic equations, while others emphasize trial and error with integer factors. The discussion does not resolve which method is preferred or most effective.

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This discussion may be useful for students learning to solve quadratic equations, educators seeking different teaching methods, or anyone interested in mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques.

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in a maths book i have there is an example of solving a quadratic. part of the process reads:

y^2 - 12y + 32 = 0


implies that


(y-8) (y-4) = 0



i don't understand how this second equation was reached based on the first one.

could someone add in the steps that gets me from the first equation to the implication.

thanks.
 
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fbsthreads said:
in a maths book i have there is an example of solving a quadratic. part of the process reads:

y^2 - 12y + 32 = 0


implies that


(y-8) (y-4) = 0



i don't understand how this second equation was reached based on the first one.

could someone add in the steps that gets me from the first equation to the implication.

thanks.
expand:

(y + a)(y + b)

and you get:

y^2 + (a+b)y + ab

so from your equation above you know that:

a + b = -12

and

ab = 32

as

-8 + -4 = -12

and

-8*-4 = 32

a and b must be -8 and -4.
 
i don't think you can, it is obvious.

if you actually want the logics of thinking its like this:

we want to express the quadratic as (y-a)(y-b),

now a*b = 32

and a + b = 12

so try all the integers you can think of, you'll find 8 and 4 does.
 
A simple way uses the idea of "completing the square:
[tex]y^{2}-12y+32=0[/tex]
Now, regarding -12=2*(-6), we add 0 to our equation in this manner:
[tex]y^{2}-12y+32+(-6)^{2}-(-6)^{2}=0[/tex]
Or, equivalently, for the Left Hand Side:
[tex]y^{2}-12y+32+(-6)^{2}-(-6)^{2}=(y^{2}-2*6y+6^{2})+(32-6^{2})=(y-6)^{2}-4[/tex]
Furthermore, since [tex]4=2^{2}[/tex] we have:
[tex](y-6)^{2}-4=(y-6)^{2}-2^{2}=(y-6+2)(y-6-2)=(y-4)(y-8)[/tex]

Finally, by setting this expression (which is equivalent to our original left hand side) equal to our originil right hand side (that is,0) we gain:
[tex](y-4)(y-8)=0[/tex]
as required.
 
thanks people.
it was the bit i have highlighted in bold that i had forgotten about when trying to work it out.

y^2 + (a+b)y + ab

thanks again.
 

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