What is a time-like killing vector?

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The discussion centers around the concept of a time-like Killing vector, exploring its definition, properties, and implications in the context of isometries and the metric tensor in general relativity. Participants delve into mathematical formulations and examples, particularly in relation to stationary black holes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define a Killing vector as one that satisfies the Killing equation, indicating a coordinate system where the metric tensor is independent of certain coordinates.
  • Others clarify that a vector is time-like if the inner product with the metric tensor is positive, noting that this depends on the signature of the metric.
  • A participant introduces the concept of isometries, explaining that they are transformations that leave the metric tensor invariant, and connects this to the definition of Killing vectors.
  • There is mention of the significance of the semicolon in the Killing equation, which denotes the covariant derivative, indicating that it is a differential equation.
  • One participant suggests that a time-like Killing vector implies that distances remain unchanged as time progresses, linking this to the properties of the metric tensor.
  • A specific example of a stationary black hole is provided as a system that possesses a time-like Killing vector.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions and mathematical formulations related to Killing vectors and their properties. However, there are nuances in the interpretations and implications of these concepts, indicating that multiple views remain on the broader implications of time-like Killing vectors.

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Some discussions involve assumptions about the signature of the metric tensor, which may affect the interpretation of time-like vectors. The discussion also touches on the mathematical rigor required in defining isometries and Killing vectors, which may not be fully resolved.

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What is a time-like killing vector?
 
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Unless given further explanation I´d say it´s exactly what the name sais:

Killing vector: A vector that fulfies the Killing-equation [tex]v_{i;j} + v_{j;i} = 0[/tex]. The existence of a Killing-vector implies the existence of a coordinate system where the metric tensor is independent of one of the coordiantes.

time-like: A vector v is timelike if [tex]g_{ij} v^{i} v^{j} >0[/tex].
EDIT: As pmb_phy correctly claims I should mention that above inequality assumes the signature of the metric to be (+,-,-,-).
 
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kurious said:
What is a time-like killing vector?
A few preliminaries - A coordinate transformation which leaves the components of the metric tensor invariant is called an isometry. This means that when the coordinates are change from the primed coordinates, x', to the unprimed coordinates x, the metric tensor remains unchanged, i.e. is the same function of the coordinates. This means

[tex]g'_{\alpha\beta}(x') = g_{\alpha\beta}(x')[/tex]

For the components of the metric tensor invariant under the isometry we must have

[tex]g_{\mu\nu} (x) = \frac{\partial x'^{\alpha}}{\partial x^{\beta}}\frac{\partial x'^{\mu}}{\partial x^{\nu}}g(x'(x))[/tex]

Consider the infinitesimal coordinate transformation

[tex]x' = x^{\alpha} + \epsilon \xi^{\alpha}[/tex]

where [tex]\xi^{\alpha}(x)[/tex] is a vector field and [tex]\epsilon[/tex] -> 0. For this coordinate transformation to yield an isometry the [tex]\xi^{\alpha}[/tex] must satisfy the following equation

[tex]\xi_{\mu;\nu} + \xi_{\nu;\mu} = 0[/tex]

As Atheist mentioned, this equation is called Killing's equation and the solutions Killing vectors.

Atheist said:
time-like: A vector v is timelike if [tex]g_{ij} v^{i} v^{j} >0[/tex].
That depends on the signature of the metric tensor.

Pete
 
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Perfectly true, Pete, but the definition is still good with the appropriate sign in. For newbies, the semicolon in Atheist's definition denotes covariant derivative, so the equation he gives, called Killing's equation, is a differential equation.
 
kurious said:
What is a time-like killing vector?

Killing vectors are generated by isometries. Isometries are transformations which leave lengths unchanged. For a more technical definition, see.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Isometry.html

A time-like Killing vector means, roughly speaking, that the distances in the system are unchanged as time increases (i.e by a time translation). Since the distances are defined by the mteric tensor, g_ab, this means that the components of the metric tensor are unchanged by time.

A stationary black hole is an example of a system with a time-like Killing vector.
 

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