Does the Tidal Effect Cause Planets to Move Away from the Sun?

In summary, all the planets are moving away from the Sun, but it's complicated to say how much. There are a lot of factors involved, including perturbation from other planets and the Sun's own loss of mass.
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Bjarne
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Are all the planets moving away from the Sun?
If so, how much?
 
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It's just not that simple. There are a lot of factors that influence a planet's orbit, including perturbation from other planets and the fact that the Sun is slowing losing mass.

Here's two tables showing the orbital elements and their rate of change for two time intervals: 1800 AD - 2050 AD and 3000 BC - 3000 AD The first column gives the average radius of the orbit and its rate of change. Note that some planets move out and some move in, and that can differ over the two time intervals.

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/txt/p_elem_t1.txt

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/txt/p_elem_t2.txt
 
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Janus said:
It's just not that simple. There are a lot of factors that influence a planet's orbit, including perturbation from other planets and the fact that the Sun is slowing losing mass.

Here's two tables showing the orbital elements and their rate of change for two time intervals: 1800 AD - 2050 AD and 3000 BC - 3000 AD The first column gives the average radius of the orbit and its rate of change. Note that some planets move out and some move in, and that can differ over the two time intervals.

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/txt/p_elem_t1.txt

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/txt/p_elem_t2.txt

Thank you...
Do we know if all the planets (in our solar system) are affected by a tidal effects, so that the planets too, (seen from a overall perspective), also are moving away from the Sun, - so like our the Moon is moving away from the Earth, - due to tidal effect ?
 
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tides comes and go, are they waves and therefor submitted to the laws of waves? if there where no gravity, then there would be no tides!
to Janus the sun is slowly loosing mass,but could it be to some exstend be compensated by the general(missing energy)?
 
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I can confirm that the tidal effect on the planet is a well-studied phenomenon. Tides are caused by the gravitational pull of the Moon and the Sun on the Earth's oceans, resulting in a periodic rise and fall of sea levels.

In terms of the planets moving away from the Sun, this is not the case for all planets. The movement of a planet away from the Sun is determined by its orbit and the balance between its gravitational pull towards the Sun and its centrifugal force. This balance is different for each planet and results in varying distances from the Sun.

For example, the Earth's orbit is nearly circular and therefore its distance from the Sun remains relatively constant. On the other hand, Mercury has a highly elliptical orbit and experiences significant variations in its distance from the Sun.

In general, the planets in our solar system are not moving away from the Sun. However, it is important to note that the Sun is continuously losing mass through its nuclear fusion reactions. This loss of mass can result in a slight decrease in the gravitational pull of the Sun on the planets, causing them to move slightly further away over a long period of time. However, this effect is very small and is not significant enough to cause a noticeable change in the planets' orbits.

In conclusion, while the tidal effect on the planet is a well-known phenomenon, it does not directly impact the distance of the planets from the Sun. The movement of planets away from the Sun is determined by their individual orbits and the balance of forces acting upon them.
 

1. What is tidal effect on the planet?

The tidal effect on the planet refers to the gravitational force exerted by the moon and the sun on Earth's oceans and landmasses, causing a rise and fall in sea levels as well as a slight deformation of the planet's shape.

2. How do tides form?

Tides form due to the gravitational pull of the moon and the sun on the Earth's oceans. As the Earth rotates, the water on the side closest to the moon or sun experiences a stronger pull, causing a bulge in the ocean. This bulge is known as a high tide. At the same time, the water on the opposite side of the Earth experiences a weaker pull, resulting in a low tide.

3. What factors influence the strength of tides?

The strength of tides is influenced by several factors, including the distance between the Earth and the moon/sun, the alignment of the Earth, moon, and sun, the shape of the coastline, and the depth and shape of the ocean floor.

4. How do tides impact marine life?

Tides play a crucial role in the lives of many marine organisms. They help to regulate the reproduction and feeding cycles of certain species, as well as act as a means of dispersal for various larvae. Tides also bring nutrients and oxygen to coastal areas, which supports the diverse ecosystems found there.

5. Can tides be predicted?

Yes, tides can be predicted using mathematical models based on the gravitational pull of the moon and sun on Earth. These predictions can be used to create tide tables, which are essential for marine navigation and coastal planning.

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