What is the equation for calculating terminal velocity?

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The discussion centers around the equation for calculating terminal velocity, exploring different models of air or fluid resistance and their implications. Participants examine theoretical frameworks and mathematical formulations related to the concept of terminal velocity in various contexts.

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  • One participant seeks an equation for terminal velocity, prompting responses regarding the modeling of air/fluid resistance.
  • Another participant presents a model where the resistance force is proportional to speed, leading to a linear differential equation and a terminal velocity of -mg/k.
  • A different model is proposed where the resistance force is proportional to the square of the speed, resulting in a non-linear differential equation and a terminal velocity of -√(g/k), which is independent of mass.
  • A further contribution outlines the forces acting on a falling object, equating gravitational force and drag force to derive a terminal velocity equation that includes mass, frontal area, and drag coefficient.
  • A participant challenges the previous model by asserting that terminal velocity does depend on mass, pointing out an error in the formulation presented earlier.

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Participants express differing views on the dependency of terminal velocity on mass and the appropriate models to use, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions regarding the nature of air resistance and the conditions under which different models apply, but these assumptions are not fully explored or agreed upon.

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i'm looking for an equation to calculate terminal velocity. Does anyone know it? and can u please post in here please. :smile:
 
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That would depend upon how you choose to model the air/fluid resistance.
 
One common model is that the resistance force is proportional to the speed.
Under that model, an object falling, under gravity has acceleration -g+ kv (k is the proportionality constant, v the speed. Since that is a function of v, it give the linear differential equation mdv/dt= -mg+ kv. The general solution to that is v(t)= Ce-kt/m-mg/k. For very large t, that exponential (with negative exponent) goes to 0 and the "terminal velocity" is -mg/k.

Another common model is to set the resistance force proportional to the square of the speed. That means the net force is -g+ kv2 and v satisfies the differential equation mdv/dt= -g+ kv2. That's a non-linear differential equation but is separable and first order. We can integrate it by writing
dv/(kv2-g)/m= (-1/2√(g))(1/(√(k)v+√(g))dv/m+(1/2√(g))(√(k)v-&radic(g))dv/m= dt.
Integrating both sides, we get (1/2√(kg))ln((√(k)v-√(g))/(√(k)v+√(g))= mt+ C. For large t, the denominator on the left must go to 0: the terminal velocity is -√(g/k) which, you will notice, is independent of m. This model is typically used for very light objects falling through air or objects falling through water.
 
A falling object on Earth is subjected to a downward force [itex]F_g=mg[/itex], while it's air resitance constitutes an upward force often modeled by

[tex]F_w=\frac{1}{2}C_D \rho A_F v^2[/tex].

With [itex]C_D[/itex] a constant (drag coefficient) that models how aerodynamic the object is, for most object of the order 1 (for a raindrop for example ~0,5), [itex]\rho[/itex] the air density, [itex]A_F[/itex] the frontal area of the object (perpendicular to the direction of motion), and [itex]v[/itex] the velocity of the object.

At terminal velocity the force on the object is zero (otherwise the object would accellerate!) so you can equate both force-equations yielding:

[tex]mg=\frac{1}{2}C_D \rho A_F v^2[/tex]
[tex]v=\sqrt{\frac{2mg}{C_D \rho A_F}}[/tex]
 
Error in post 3

Indeed, terminal velocity depends on mass. You forgot the FORCE due to gravity is mg, not g.
 

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