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Jun1410, 03:35 PM

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1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A uniform disk of mass Mdisk = 4.9 kg and radius R = 0.2 m has a small block of mass mblock = 2 kg on its rim. It rotates about an axis a distance d = 0.17 m from its center intersecting the disk along the radius on which the block is situated. a) What is the moment of inertia of the block about the rotation axis? b) What is the moment of inertia of the disk about the rotation axis? c) When the system is rotating about the axis with an angular velocity of 4.2 rad/s, what is its energy? d) If while the system is rotating with angular velocity 4.2 rad/s it has an angular acceleration of 8.1 rad/s2, what is the magnitude of the acceleration of the block? 2. Relevant equations I = mR^2 3. The attempt at a solution I tried I = mR^2 for m = 4.9 and R = 0.2 for part b and also m = (4.9 + 2) but that was also not right. For the block i tried I = (2)*(.17^2) but that didn't work either, so I'm completely lost. Please help. 


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Jun1410, 03:43 PM

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Jun1410, 03:47 PM

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I found I = .5*m*R^2, and i tried both of the following:
I = .5*4.9*(.2^2) and I = .5*4.9*(.2^2) + (2)(.17^2) and neither worked. 


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Jun1410, 04:23 PM

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Inertia of Disk and Block
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Jun1410, 04:37 PM

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Note that you're working on (b). What about (a)? What's the moment of inertia of the block about the axis? (Treat the block as being a small mass.) 


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Jun1410, 04:38 PM

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You also need the parallel axis theorem since the disk is not rotating about its center.
http://hyperphysics.phyastr.gsu.edu...parax.html#pax I had to draw this out in order to really see it. The block is actually rotating around in a circle with a radius of 0.03 m  isn't it? 


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#8
Jun1410, 04:50 PM

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The reason I used a 2 instead of .2 before was because I figured the mass wasn't evenly distributed due to the block being added to it. 


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Jun1410, 04:56 PM

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Figure out the moment of inertia of the disk. (Which is part (b).) Figure out the moment of inertia of the block. (Which is part (a).) You'll need to add them in the later parts of the problem, but keep them separate for now. 


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Jun1410, 04:56 PM

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I understand part a, because it's just a circle with radius 0.03 m.
So Inertia of block = 2*(0.03)^2 But for the disk with the block on it, I'm confused, From the Axis Theorum, I'm getting the following: Intertia of disk = (1/2)*4.9*(.2^2) + .2*(1.7)^2 Since there's a block on it, would I do something like... .5*4.9*(.2^2) + .2*1.7^2 + 2*(0.03)^2? 


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Jun1410, 05:07 PM

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(Overall hint: The total moment of inertia of a disk with a block on it is the sum of the moment of inertia of the block plus the moment of inertia of the disk. That's why they are asking for each separately.) 


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Jun1410, 05:14 PM

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The .2 is the mass of the disk, (assuming that's what M is). Just realized I made a mistake with that one. Should be 4.9. The .17 is the distance, (assuming that's what d is). So with the corrected mass, .5*4.9*(.2^2) + 4.9*1.7^2? 


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Jun1410, 05:19 PM

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Jun1410, 05:31 PM

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Oh, right...
I guess I've been staring at a computer screen for too long... So I added the two (using the correct distances and masses) and multiplied the sum of Inertia's by (1/2)(4.2^2) for part c and got the right answer. for part d, do i just sum the angular acceleration and the centripetal acceleration? or am i overcomplicating it again? 


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#16
Jun1410, 05:38 PM

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right, that's the idea.
so aT = alpha*R aC = R*w^2 and since their directions are perpendicular, sqrt(aT^2 + aC^2), right? 


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