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The discussion revolves around the need for a device that can control the amount of current (amps) flowing from a battery without altering the voltage. Participants explore various approaches and devices that could achieve this, including electronic components and circuit configurations. The context includes practical applications related to a lawn mower battery.

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  • One participant inquires about a device that reduces amps without affecting voltage, seeking control over current flow.
  • Another suggests using an operational amplifier (op-amp) as a potential solution.
  • A different participant proposes a series resistor with an op-amp configuration to modulate current, providing a controlling equation for the setup.
  • Questions arise regarding the specifics of the application, including the voltage and amperage requirements of the battery and the load.
  • Clarification is provided that the battery in question is for a lawn mower, rated at 12 volts and 9.9 amps.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the goal is to limit charging current or to replace the battery, indicating a need for more information.
  • One participant suggests using a current divider with resistors to control current flow, reiterating the importance of input resistance in the application.
  • Another participant emphasizes that electrical loads draw the current they require, regardless of the source's capacity, and recommends using a fuse for safety.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding regarding the original question and the appropriate methods for controlling current. There is no consensus on a single solution, and multiple approaches are discussed without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific application and requirements, indicating that assumptions about the load and battery characteristics may influence the proposed solutions. The discussion includes varying levels of expertise among participants.

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Individuals interested in electronics, particularly those working with batteries and current control in practical applications, may find this discussion relevant.

bleh
i was wondering if anyone out their knew if their is a device which reduces amps and not voltage i need something that i can use to controll the amount of amps flowing.

thanks everyone
 
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Maybe stick an op-amp in it?
 
Originally posted by bleh
i was wondering if anyone out their knew if their is a device which reduces amps and not voltage i need something that i can use to controll the amount of amps flowing.

thanks everyone

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As a former analog IC designer, I recommend the following quick and dirty cure-all.

Put the current source in series with a resistor to ground. Take the voltage between these components and feed it into an inverting-configuration op-amp with unity gain. Follow this amplifier with a second inverting-configuration op-amp with unity gain. To modulate the attenuation of the current, change the value of the first resistor mentioned (the input resistor).

Here is your controlling equation.

Iout = (Rin / (Rin + R)) * In, where

R = value of matched resistors used in first inverting-configuration op-amp, and

Rin = input resistor.

eNtRopY
 
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How many amps? How many volts? There may be a VERY simple way. I assume you are looking for a controllable current source as opposed to a voltage source. BTW, you really can't change one without changing the other. I don't know your expertise in electronics. The difference is whether the amperage is regulated to a constant value regardless of the type of load or if the voltage is regulated to a constant value regardless of the load. I'm rambling, I'll shut up now! Let me know the application though, it may be a lot easier than you realize.
 
volts and amps

its a battery for a lawn mower its 12 volts with 9.9 amps
 
Still not sure what you are trying to do. Are you limiting charging current to the battery? Replacing the battery with something? What? Need more information before I can be of help to you.
 


Originally posted by bleh
its a battery for a lawn mower its 12 volts with 9.9 amps

You should have mentioned this in the beginning. In this case, you don't need the fancy electronics I previously mentioned. You just need a current divider. You can make one by connecting your battery to two resistors connected in parallel. Ground the end of one resistor and feed the other end into your lawn mower. The same equation I previously gave you applies here. Just make sure that input resistance of your lawn mower is small compared to the resistance value of the resistors you use (< 10%).

eNtRopY
 
volts and amps

im connecting the battery to something that runs on 12 volts dc and 500 milli amps and i don't want to break it because the battery has 9.9 amps so i want to reduce the amps, but the thing I am hooking the battery up to can go up to 1 amp so i want to be abel to increase the amps when i need to by moving a dial or something
 
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Ok, you are thoroughly confused on this. Electrical loads draw the amount of current required. A 12 volt source can have the capability to supply hundreds or thousands of amperes, but if a small load only requiring one amp is hooked to it nothing out of the ordinary happens. It will draw one amp even though the source is capable of much more. You would be wise to hook a 1 or 1.5 amp fuse in-line with whatever you are powering. BTW, what ARE you powering? Hope this helps.
 

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