Composition and Identity of functions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the composition of functions, specifically the functions f(x) = 3x + 2 and g(x) = x + 5. Participants explore how to compute f[g(x)] and g[f(x)], seeking clarification on the results of these compositions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that f[g(x)] equals 3x + 17 and requests verification of this result.
  • Another participant explains the operation of function f, suggesting that it multiplies the input by 3 and adds 2, and asks for the input value.
  • A different participant elaborates on the meaning of f(g(x)) and provides a step-by-step breakdown, ultimately arriving at the expression 3(x + 5) + 2, which simplifies to 3x + 17.
  • Participants discuss the operation of g(x) and how it modifies the input, with one participant indicating that g[f(x)] would result in adding 5 to 3x + 2.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the overall understanding of the compositions, as participants are exploring and clarifying their reasoning without resolving all questions or uncertainties.

Contextual Notes

Some steps in the mathematical reasoning are presented without explicit resolution, and there may be assumptions about the participants' familiarity with function composition that are not stated.

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f(x) = 3x + 2 and g(x) = x + 5

f[g(x)] but some how this equals 3x + 17? please show me.
g[f(x)] I know this would equal 3x + 7


Thanks <3
 
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a function takes the input, performs some operation and gives an output.

f takes the input, multiplies by 3 and adds 2, now what's the input?
 
f(x)= 3x+ 2 MEANS "what ever is inside the parentheses, multiply it by 3 and then add 2. So f(g(x))= f(x+5) means- multiply x+5 by 3 and then add 2: f(g(x))= 3(x+5)+ 2= what?

g(x)= x+ 5 MEANS "whatever is inside the parentheses, add 5 to it". g(f(x))= g(3x+2) MEANS "add 5 to 3x+ 2". What is that?
 
f(x) = 3x + 2
g(x) = x + 5
f(g(x)) = ?

First off, let's make things easier for you and say that:
y = g(x)
which means:
f(g(x)) = f(y)

Now what is y?
y = g(x) = x + 5
And what is f(y)?
f(y) = 3y + 2
since y = g(x) = x + 5 we can replace y with x + 5
3y + 2 = 3(x + 5) + 2
Then take x + 5 out of paratheses:
3(x + 5) + 2 = 3x + 15 + 2 = 3x + 17
 

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