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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of two advanced physics textbooks: "Classical Electrodynamics" by Jackson and "Modern Quantum Mechanics" by Sakurai. Participants share their experiences and opinions regarding the difficulty, utility, and teaching styles of these texts, particularly in the context of graduate-level courses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Jackson is a standard text for Graduate Electromagnetics/Dynamics, emphasizing the need for extensive problem-solving to grasp the material.
  • Others express that Sakurai is challenging, particularly for those unfamiliar with bra-ket notation, suggesting it may not be suitable as a first quantum mechanics text.
  • A participant recommends starting with Cohen-Tannoudji before tackling Sakurai for a more foundational understanding.
  • One contributor mentions that both textbooks are valuable resources, akin to Goldstein for Mechanics, but emphasizes the importance of having a solid grasp of the basics before diving into them.
  • Another participant shares their personal experience of purchasing both books due to limited library availability, expressing mixed feelings about Sakurai's presentation style despite recognizing its rigor.
  • One comment asserts that both books are essential for graduate study, suggesting they should be part of every physicist's library.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions regarding the difficulty and suitability of the textbooks, with no clear consensus on their overall value or the best approach to studying them. Some participants advocate for their necessity in graduate studies, while others caution about their complexity and recommend alternative texts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the need for foundational knowledge before engaging with these texts, indicating that their effectiveness may depend on prior coursework and understanding of the subjects.

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Hi all,

What do you think about "Classical Electrodynamics" by Jackson and "Modern Quantum Mechanics" by Sakurai? I heard some people say both of them are quite difficult/abstract. I would like to see if it is a good idea to buy them both for my courses.

Thanks a lot.
 
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Jackson has been the standard text for Graduate Electromagnetics/Dynamics for nearly 40 years. It takes a bunch of work to feel comfortable with the material in it, i.e. you have to do most of the problems and rework most of the theory in the text in detail.

As for Sakurai, I took many courses in Qantum Mechanics and still have difficulty doing all of the problems. It is a more modern text as opposed to Messiah or Mertzbacher and maybe that is my problem, I never learned to work with bra-ket notaion comfortably.


The more you study them, the more you will learn. Both are useful texts to have around, just as Goldstein is for Mechanics.

DT
 
Jackson teaches you the mathematical techniques for solving EM problems, and is good at that.

I would not recommend Sakurai as a first Q.Mech text - start off with Cohen-Tannoudji or the like, and if you want harder problems, look at Sakurai.
 
Wong said:
Hi all,

What do you think about "Classical Electrodynamics" by Jackson and "Modern Quantum Mechanics" by Sakurai? I heard some people say both of them are quite difficult/abstract. I would like to see if it is a good idea to buy them both for my courses.

Thanks a lot.
By both of them, as far as I believe not know, they are all good textbooks, this is what i have just asked several people here,

but first of all, you need to TAKE ALL THE BASICS ABOUT THOSE, TAKE THEM ALL,
so you have to take a look at YOUR LIBRARY again.

and TRY TO SEARCH AND ASK THEM TO DELIVER MUCH MORE MUCH MORE RELATED SOURCES.
I also learn LOTS from those SOURCES, true!

Stop thinking about other subjects you know, and you have to concentrate on THOSE SOURCES.

All in all, both of the books above are good. But again, DELIVERY MUST be much more.
Understand ?
 
Thanks for all the replies.

At last, I bought both of them, because there is only one copy of each in the library and so I cannot "borrow them through" the whole semester. In fact I think they are quite expensive, considering that I may get a good hardcover (with nice pics) on other subjects with the same money I spent.

I read the first chapter of Sakurai briefly. I do not quite like his style of presentation. The derivations are rigorous, but the materials are not as clearly presented and "well-organised" as in a mathematical text. But I still think it is delightful as a textbook.
 
They are both bibles of the graduate study. Every physicist should have one copy of these books.
 

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