TI83+ On Sale: Is It Right for Grade 12 Math?

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The discussion revolves around the suitability of the TI-83+ calculator for a Grade 12 math curriculum, which includes algebra, geometry, and data management. Participants explore various calculator options, including the TI-86, TI-89, and HP49G+, while considering future university-level math and physics courses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions the TI-83+ being adequate for Grade 12 algebra, geometry, and data management, questioning if a higher model is necessary.
  • Another participant suggests the HP49G+ as a superior option due to its expandable memory and advanced math functions, but notes it may not be necessary for students not taking upper division courses.
  • A different participant expresses interest in higher-end models but cites budget constraints, considering the HP 33S, which is not a graphing calculator.
  • One participant shares their positive experience with the TI-83+, stating it was sufficient for calculus and algebra, and mentions that many universities do not allow calculators during exams.
  • Another participant reiterates the advantages of the HP49G+ and clarifies that "upper division" refers to advanced calculus and engineering courses.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity and usability of the TI-89, with one participant finding it hard to use compared to the TI-86 and TI-83.
  • A participant reports issues with their TI-83+ screen, noting disappearing pixels and seeking advice on the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best calculator for Grade 12 math, with some advocating for the TI-83+ while others recommend the HP49G+. There is no consensus on which calculator is definitively superior, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best choice for future academic needs.

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Participants' recommendations depend on individual needs, budget constraints, and future course plans. The discussion highlights varying levels of familiarity and comfort with different calculator models, as well as differing requirements for university courses.

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at future shop the TI83+ just went on sale for $97 CND. I think i am going to get it. This year I am in grade 12 and am taking algebra/geometry and data management which i believe is the equvialent of finite. Will this calc. be adequate for those cources? or should I bump up to the 86 or 89? I am planning on taking university maths and physics. the calulator can be found here
 
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Well, if you plan on taking physics or possibly engineering courses, I'd like to suggest the Hewlett-Packard HP49G+. The 49G+ offers expandable memory whereas none of the TI's do, including the Voyage 200 and 89. The 49G+ features a full computer algebra system, even more complete than the 89 and Voyage 200 in most cases. The 49G+ by default has more advanced math functions than the 89 does. You could download them for the 89 from a third-party site, but why bother when you can buy a calculator with them already on it. The 49G+'s price is very comparable to that of an 89, roughly $135-$150 (USD). The 49G+ offers RPN mode (faster data entry), and an algebraic entry (which, I don't prefer) that uses parenthesis. If you don't like RPN, then switch to Algebraic. Like I said, you can't go wrong.

However, if you don't plan on taking mathematics or physics classes that aren't "upper division," the HP is useless as will be the 89. In that case, go ahead and buy the 83+.
 
well I would like to buy one of the higher end models but I don't think I can afford it now. I was looking at the HP 33S though, what do you think of that? It isn't a graphing calc though, which i would like. what do you mean by upper division?
 
the ti 83+ is more than enough. I got mine at the same time you did, but laste year (beginning of grade 12) and I took algebra/geometry and calculus. It really helpes for calc and it heles with its fast solving for vector and plane problems in algebra. It will do fine, you don't need anything better, and +, most univesities don't let you use a calc for exams or tests.
 
Like I said, the 49G+ is what you want.

By upper division, I mean a Calculus sequence, DE, and other physics or engineering classes.

The 33S, like you said, is a scientfic calculator (a good one, though), but you prefer a graphing calculator and are low on cash. If that's true consider the HPGII, which is basically the 49G+ without the slot for expandibility.
 
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The Ti-89 is too complicated and hard to use. (The screen has very small lettering too.) The TI-86 is a good, all-around calculator, but the Ti-83 is O.K.
 
speaking of ti-83+s, the pixels on my screen are disappearing i don't know why, for example some weeks ago, this line in the middle of the screen had no pixels and then this week another line just went blank, you don't see anything in those two lines..

it is really not annoying me or anything, but any help would be appreciated..
 

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