How Does Euler's Formula Apply to e^(-2i*theta)?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Euler's formula to the expression e^(-2i*theta). Participants explore the derivation and implications of this expression, including its relation to trigonometric identities and transformations.

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  • One participant seeks to derive e^(-2i*theta) from Euler's relationship, initially expressing uncertainty about their approach.
  • Another participant clarifies that e^(-2i*theta) can be expressed as cos(-2*theta) + i*sin(-2*theta), emphasizing the generality of Euler's relation.
  • A later reply suggests that e^(-2i*theta) can also be represented as (e^(-i*theta))^2, leading to a different formulation involving cos^2(theta) and sin^2(theta).
  • Concerns are raised about the initial derivation of e^(+2*theta), questioning the validity of certain substitutions made in the process.
  • Participants discuss the implications of using negative angles in trigonometric functions, noting that cos(-theta) equals cos(theta) while sin(-theta) equals -sin(theta).

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Participants generally agree on the application of Euler's formula but express differing views on the derivation steps and transformations involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correctness of the initial derivation and the subsequent transformations.

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Some participants highlight potential limitations in the initial assumptions and substitutions made during the derivation process, indicating that certain mathematical steps may not have been fully resolved.

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Help! Euler's Relationship!

if e^(i*theta) = cos(theta) + i*sin(theta)

then what is e^(-2i*theta) = ?

I attempted to derive this and got the following for the +2i:
e^(+2*theta) = cos(2*theta) + 2i*cos(theta)sin(theta)

Not even sure if this may be correct, but I believe the answer to my question with negative 2 (-2i) must be simple... Help please, thanx.


Because I am attempting to derive 2sin^2(theta) = 1-cos(2theta) from euler's relationship: e^(i*theta) = cos(theta) + i*sin(theta)


Hannah
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Euler's relation is that

[tex]e^{ix} = \cos(x) + i \sin(x)[/tex]

where x can be anything at all. In your example, x would be [itex]-2 \theta[/itex], so plug it in:

[tex]e^{-2 i \theta} = \cos(-2 \theta) + i \sin(-2 \theta)[/tex]

- Warren
 
Thanks, that helps!
 
Just solved it, after 45 minutes... :frown:
 
chroot said:
Euler's relation is that

[tex]e^{ix} = \cos(x) + i \sin(x)[/tex]

where x can be anything at all. In your example, x would be [itex]-2 \theta[/itex], so plug it in:

[tex]e^{-2 i \theta} = \cos(-2 \theta) + i \sin(-2 \theta)[/tex]

- Warren
And [itex]e^{-2i\theta}[/tex] is also [itex]\left(e^{-i\theta}\right)^2[/itex] which gives [itex]\cos^2\theta-\sin^2\theta-2i\sin\theta\cos\theta[/itex]. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":smile:" title="Smile :smile:" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":smile:" />[/itex]
 
Since you arrived at e^(+2*theta) = cos(2*theta) + 2i*cos(theta)sin(theta)
I'm surprised you could continue: using -θ instead of θ just replaces &theta; with -θ and cos(-θ)= cos(θ), sin(-&theta;)= -sin(&theta;).

Also, since you clearly replaced sin(2θ) with 2sin(θ)cos(&theta), why not also replace cos(2&theta) with cos2(θ)- sin2(θ)?

Putting those together, [tex]e^{-2\theta}= cos(-2\theta)+ i sin(-2\theta)[/tex]
[tex]= cos^2(-\theta)- sin^2(-\theta)+ 2i sin(-\theta)cos(-\theta)[/tex]
[tex]= cos^(\theta)+ sin^2(\theta)- 2i sin(\theta)cos(\theta)[/tex],
exactly what Tide got by squaring.
 
THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS... you've all been too helpful :blushing:

Hannah
 
Hello there helpful bunch! ;)

How are you guys able to write out the equations?? Because I tried to copy and past them into this email however it simply would not do that...Thanx for all the assistance!
 

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