Finding Stationary Points in a Rational Function

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The discussion revolves around finding stationary points in the rational function f(x) = 1/(x+3) + 1/(x-1). Participants are analyzing the first derivative to identify points where the function's rate of change is zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to find stationary points by setting the first derivative f'(x) to zero but encounters a quadratic equation that appears to have no real solutions. Some participants question the interpretation of the derivative's behavior around x = -1 and discuss the implications of the second derivative.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, correcting each other's interpretations regarding the behavior of the function and its derivatives. There is recognition that the function does not have stationary points, and some clarification on the nature of the function's increase or decrease is being explored.

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There is a discussion about the intervals where the function is defined and the behavior of the function across those intervals. Participants are also considering the implications of the derivatives in determining the function's characteristics.

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i have been give the equation

f(x) = 1/(x+3) + 1/(x-1)

i am trying to find the stationary points. so

f '(x) = -1/(x+3)^2 -1/(x-1)^2

f '(x) = 0 for stationary point

then when i simplified down i get 2x^2+4x+5 = 0, which is undefinable

i looked at the derivative on the graph and it looks like it has a turning point at (-1,0).

please help, either i have made an easy mistake or somethings wrong! :cry:
 
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Yeah, looks like the derivative has a "turning point" around x = -1. However, that doesn't mean that the derivative IS zero at that point, it means that the derivative of the derivative is zero there. If you wanted to x such that f'(x) = 0, you'd look for the places where f'(x) crosses the x-axis (which, in this case, it doesn't appear to do).
 
Shouldn't it be 2x^2 + 4x + 10 =0. this has no real solution so the function is always increasing.

You got to look at the second derivative (f'') of this function and solve f'' = 0. Then you will get the x-coördinate of the turning point. Substituting this x-value into f(x) yields the y-value.


regards
marlon
 
marlon:
The function is always decreasing, not increasing!
The function doesn't have any stationary points.
The function has three continuous sections , each of them decreasing; the intervals where the function is defined are:
[tex]-\infty<{x}<{-3},-3<{x}<{1},1<x<\infty[/tex]
 
arildno said:
marlon:
The function is always decreasing, not increasing!

yes that is correct. Forgot the minus sign in the first derivative...

Thanks for the correction.

regards
marlon
 

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