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<jabberwocky><div class="vbmenu_control"><a href="jabberwocky:;" onClick="newWindow=window.open('','usenetCode','toolbar=no,location=no, scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,status=no,width=650,height=400'); newWindow.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Usenet ASCII</TITLE></HEAD><BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 BGCOLOR=#F1F1F1><table border=0 width=625><td bgcolor=midnightblue><font color=#F1F1F1>This Usenet message\'s original ASCII form: </font></td></tr><tr><td width=449><br><br><font face=courier><UL><PRE>Hawking\'s Dublin argument ([1]) about black holes applies as well to\nwhite holes , the only difference being a change of sign. Since we\ncannot be sure of the presence of a white hole, there are histories\nover topologically trivial metrics bypassing the singularity. In as\nmuch as the big bang can be assimilated to a white hole ([2]) the\nargument applies to it too (*), i.e. there must be information flowing\nour way in time from behind the "initial" singularity.\n\nThere are stellar objects that may lend observational relevance to\nthis remark. The "standard candle" criterion provides strong\nevidence for an expanding universe, but its application to, say,\ndistant supernovae requires a nonnull cosmological constant\n([3],[4]).\nIf one dislikes dark energy, as I do, one may speculate that, unlike\nmost other objects we see in the sky, distant supernovae reveal\ninformation that did not pour out of the big bang but which reaches us\nalong paths over topologically trivial metrics, skimping the\nsingularity.\n\n\nIV\n\n(*) the point being whether an initial singularity with unitary\namplitude is detemined by running the current state of the universe\nbackwards in time, i,e. paraphrasing Hawking, wheter we can be sure\nthe initial singularity forms.\n\n[1] http://pancake.uchicago.edu/%7Ecarroll/hawkingdublin.txt\n[2] http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/BlackHoles/universe.html\nnotice the remark: "Outside a white hole event horizon there are\nworld lines which can be traced back into the past indefinitely\nwithout ever meeting the white hole singularity whereas in a FRW\ncosmology all worldline originate at the singularity."\n[3] http://www.slac.stanford.edu/econf/C990809/docs/perlmutter.pdf\n[4] http://olympus.het.brown.edu/pipermail/spr/Week-of-Mon-20030922/013841.html\n____________________________\n\n"Mensionis quaestionem expellas furca, tamen usque recurret"\n\n"You may chase the measurement problem away with a pitchfork, yet in\nthe end it will come back".\n\nHorace&IV\n\n</UL></PRE></font></td></tr></table></BODY><HTML>');"> <IMG SRC=/images/buttons/ip.gif BORDER=0 ALIGN=CENTER ALT="View this Usenet post in original ASCII form"> View this Usenet post in original ASCII form </a></div><P></jabberwocky>Hawking's Dublin argument ([1]) about black holes applies as well to
white holes , the only difference being a change of sign. Since we cannot be sure of the presence of a white hole, there are histories over topologically trivial metrics bypassing the singularity. In as much as the big bang can be assimilated to a white hole ([2]) the argument applies to it too [itex](*), i[/itex].e. there must be information flowing our way in time from behind the "initial" singularity. There are stellar objects that may lend observational relevance to this remark. The "standard candle" criterion provides strong evidence for an expanding universe, but its application to, say, distant supernovae requires a nonnull cosmological constant ([3],[4]). If one dislikes dark energy, as I do, one may speculate that, unlike most other objects we see in the sky, distant supernovae reveal information that did not pour out of the big bang but which reaches us along paths over topologically trivial metrics, skimping the singularity. IV (*) the point being whether an initial singularity with unitary amplitude is detemined by running the current state of the universe backwards in time, i,e. paraphrasing Hawking, wheter we can be sure the initial singularity forms. [1] http://pancake.uchicago.edu/%7Ecarro...kingdublin.txt [2] http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic.../universe.html notice the remark: "Outside a white hole event horizon there are world lines which can be traced back into the past indefinitely without ever meeting the white hole singularity whereas in a FRW cosmology all worldline originate at the singularity." [3] http://www.slac.stanford.edu/econf/C...perlmutter.pdf [4] http://olympus.het.brown.edu/piperma...22/013841.html __{__________________________} "Mensionis quaestionem expellas furca, tamen usque recurret" "You may chase the measurement problem away with a pitchfork, yet in the end it will come back". Horace&IV |
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