How do extremes of a variable affect an equation?

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The discussion revolves around understanding how extremes of a variable, specifically time (t), affect an equation for acceleration given by a = [(at^2 - bt)/(t+c)d] + et^2/(t-c)d, where a, b, c, d, and e are constants. The original poster seeks to explore the behavior of the equation as t approaches 0, becomes much larger than c, and becomes much smaller than c.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of substituting extreme values for t into the acceleration equation. Some suggest visualizing the effects or using numerical examples instead of formal methods like the binomial theorem. There is also a clarification regarding the notation of 'a' in the equation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided insights into the behavior of the equation under specific conditions, while others are still seeking clarity on the notation and the implications of their findings.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the use of the binomial theorem and the notation of 'a' versus 'A' in the equation, which may affect the understanding of the problem. The original poster expresses difficulty in deriving meaningful results from their attempts.

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To get a feeling for how extremes of a variable affect an equation, suppose that the acceleration of a body is given by a = [(at^2 - bt)/(t+c)d] + et^2/(t-c)d where a,b,c,d,e are constants : (a) Determine the value of a when t=0. (b) Find the value of a when t>>c.
(c ) find the value of a when t<<c.

I tried approximation by binomial theorem but I got some meaningless equations (for me ) so I couldn't find such a feeling :biggrin:
Please help me with this problem.
Thanks
 
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Rather than using an equation, just by looking at your acceleration equation try to see what happens when t >> c and t << c. If you can't visualize it, plug in actual numbers and see what happens.
 
I don't know why you would use the binomial theorem.

a= [(at^2 - bt)/(t+c)d] + et^2/(t-c)d
(Am I correct in assuming that the "a" on both sides is intended?)

Obviously, if t= 0, a= 0.

If t is "much larger than c" (t>> c) we can ignore the c added or subtracted (If you have $10000000, $1 more or less doesn't matter! On the other hand multiplying by a very small number can be important!) and write
a is very close to [(at^2 - bt)/(t)d] + et^2/(t)d = ((at-b)+et)/d= ((a+e)t-b)/d
so da= at+ et- b. (d-t)a= et-b so a= (et-b)/(d-t).

I'm going to interpret "t<< c" to mean "t is non-zero but much smaller than c but non-zero.

Now, we "ignore" the t in t-c and t+ c and have a= [(at^2 - bt)/cd] + et^2/(-c)d=
a(t^2/cd)- bt/cd+ (et^2/cd) so (1- t^2/cd)a= ((cd- t^2)/cd)a= (et^2- bt)/ce and
a= (et^2- bt)/(cd- t^2).
 
I should have written the "a" in the left hand side as capital, A. Because it is diffrent from the right hand side one.
Now, probably, I've found such a feeling.
Thanks
 

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