Solve Ax+By=C Equation for Line through (2,-1) & (4,6)

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a line in standard form \( ax + by = c \) that passes through the points (2, -1) and (4, 6). Participants explore the relationship between different forms of linear equations, including slope-intercept form and standard form, while addressing potential confusion regarding the number of variables involved.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the need for multiple points to solve for the variables in the equation, suggesting confusion about the standard form and slope-intercept form.
  • Another participant provides a method to find the slope of the line using the two given points, leading to a rearranged equation.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the uniqueness of coefficients in the standard form, noting that multiple equations can represent the same line.
  • A later reply clarifies that the slope-intercept form imposes a unique representation by fixing the y coefficient, which does not apply to vertical lines.
  • One participant arrives at a solution using the slope and y-intercept, presenting the final equation in slope-intercept form and converting it to standard form.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method to find the line's equation but express differing views on the uniqueness of the coefficients in standard form and the definitions of standard versus slope-intercept forms. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these differences.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the relationship between the forms of linear equations and the implications of variable coefficients, as well as the handling of vertical lines in standard form.

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I know this sounds simple, but my friend insists this is a problem in his textbook, and I can't solve it:

"Give the equation in standard form ax+by=c of the line through the points (2, -1) and (4,6)"

Don't you need one point for every variable? Isn't the standard form y = mx + b?
 
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[y-(-1)]/(x-2)=[6-(-1)]/(6-2)
0=7x-2y-16
 
Can you explain a bit more clearly, please?

Are there infinite possible values for A, B, and C? That's the reason I couldn't solve it.
 
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Point (x,y) is on the line. LHS of the equation find the slope of the line in term of the variable. RHS finds the slope by the 2 given points.

I can't answer your question about the variable a,b and c. the equation comes naturally when it is simplified to the form wanted.
 
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I get it now, I'm not actually solving for 3 variables, because it can be compressed to the y = mx + c form. We're just using integer values to avoid that nasty 3.5
 
If you rearrange the equation you can get to y=(c/b)-(a/b)x which is in the forme y=mx+b

(I hope I'm right)
 
The ax+by=c form is a little more general, as you can describe a vertical line this way (when b=0, a<>0). The drawback is your choice of coefficients is no longer unique, x+y=1 describes the same line as 2x+2y=2 and so on. This was your problem, you have infinitely many acceptable solutions, that are all multiples of one another.

You correct this lack of uniqueness in the y=mx+b form, you're essentially forcing the y coefficient to be 1, which is why you can't get vertical lines (m=infinity is not allowed). Which one you call standard form isn't terribly important (y=mx+b is probably the more commonly used one), as long as you know which form you want your line in.
 
Alkatran said:
I know this sounds simple, but my friend insists this is a problem in his textbook, and I can't solve it:

"Give the equation in standard form ax+by=c of the line through the points (2, -1) and (4,6)"

Don't you need one point for every variable? Isn't the standard form y = mx + b?

y = mx + b is called the slope-intercept form, and is probably more "standard" than the standard form ax + by = c.

To solve the problem, find the slope: [tex]m=\frac{6-(-1)}{4-2}=3.5[/tex] and y-intercept by substituting into y=mx+b: [tex]-1=3.5\cdot2+b\rightarrowb=-1-7=-8[/tex], giving [tex]y=3.5x-8[/tex] or [tex]2y-7x=-16[/tex]
 

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