Is Electron Mass Linked to the Coupling Constant in Quantum Field Theory?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between electron mass and the coupling constant in quantum field theory (QFT), exploring theoretical implications and interpretations within the context of particle interactions and models, including Bohr's model of hydrogen atoms.

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  • One participant suggests that if the electric coupling constant decreases as the speed of the electron decreases, this could affect the electron's interaction with surrounding particles, potentially linking its mass to absorption capabilities.
  • Another participant asserts that mass is indeed linked to the coupling constant in QFT, noting that mass itself acts as a coupling constant representing the strength of interaction with the Higgs field.
  • A further contribution discusses the concept of renormalization, indicating that mass can vary with speed and through interactions with other particles, introducing the idea of effective mass and quasiparticles.
  • A participant questions the classical interpretation of electron motion in Bohr's model, specifically addressing the implications of angular momentum in relation to the proposed changes in speed and orbiting behavior.
  • One participant humorously acknowledges the previous question while reiterating their focus on the mass-coupling constant relationship.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between electron mass and the coupling constant, with some asserting a direct link while others raise questions about the implications of classical models and angular momentum. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Participants highlight various assumptions regarding the nature of mass, speed, and interactions within QFT, as well as the classical interpretations of electron behavior in atomic models. These assumptions may influence the interpretations and conclusions drawn in the discussion.

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In Bohr's model of hydrogen atoms, a 1s electron would
orbit the proton quicker than a 2s electron.If we slowed down the 1s electron slightly we would normally expect it to spiral towards the proton.But not if we could decrease the force acting on the slower moving electron.If the electric coupling constant gets smaller as electron speed decreases,then this would happen.
The force acting on the electron does not have to be weaker because there is some new repulsive force acting on the electron - the slower speed of the electron could affect the probability of particles in the space around the electron absorbing force carrying photons.A slower moving electron has less mass and so we could postulate that the mass of the electron is linked to the
absorption capabilities of the particles in the space around the electron.
If the particles cause the electron's mass then when it has a smaller mass
(slower speed) there would be more mass-causing particles free to promote photon absorption.Why isn't electron mass linked to the coupling constant in
quantum field theory - and which mass does the mass term in the gravitational coupling constant refer to?
 
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Mass IS linked to the coupling constant in QFT, besides mass itself is a coupling constant in QFT expressing the strength of the interaction between an elementary particle and the Higgs-field.

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marlon
 
Besides, mass is also renormalized because mass can be generated dynamically. basically this means that the mass of a particle depends on it's speed.

Similarly mass can vary through interactions with other particles (something like the effective mass of solid state physics).

Just look at the concept of the polarization-insertion in QFT. This is the self-energy of the photon-propagator and intuitively you can interpret this as follows : replace the vacuum by some kind of dielectricum that influences present electromagnetic fields. Hence the name POLARIZATION-insertion.

This insertion is closely linked to the concept of quasi-particles. If the interaction between the electrons is "not too strong", we put all (more technically : we renormalize) all of the interactions that a single electron experiences into the
selfenergy. Just look at this as if we "gather or lump" all the interactions into the mass of the electron and then we look at this new particle as if it were a "free" particle.
Thus we acquire a a free electron with a new mass called the effective mass. This new particle is called a quasiparticle.

A quasiparticle is a particle that is a result when we incorporate the renormalized self-interaction into it. Like this we reduced a many-body-problem that we cannot solve into many one-body-problems that we CAN solve.

The polarization-insertion has the same use in QFT.

just as an illustration, ok?

regards
marlon :smile:
 
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Rothiemurchus said:
In Bohr's model of hydrogen atoms, a 1s electron would
orbit the proton quicker than a 2s electron.If we slowed down the 1s electron slightly we would normally expect it to spiral towards the proton.But not if we could decrease the force acting on the slower moving electron.If the electric coupling constant gets smaller as electron speed decreases,then this would happen.

So, am I the only one who is seeing a problem here?

The s-orbitals are for the l=0 angular momentum quantum number. It means that it has ZERO angular momentum in the classical sense. So then my question is, what is being "slowed" down or what quantity is being made "faster"? It already has zero angular momentum. So how can we have it "orbiting" faster or slower?

Zz.
 
hahaha,ZapperZ, you certainly are not...

I was only answering to the question on mass and the coupling constant...

marlon
 

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