Solve a Physics Problem: Normal Force Calculation for a 38.0kg and 17.0kg Box

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The problem involves calculating the normal force exerted by a 38.0 kg box on a 17.0 kg box resting on top of it. The context is rooted in classical mechanics, specifically focusing on forces and Newton's laws.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the normal force but expresses uncertainty about how to determine the force exerted by the 38.0 kg box on the 17.0 kg box. Other participants provide insights into the forces involved, referencing Newton's laws and the forces acting on the boxes.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationships between the forces acting on the boxes, with some guidance offered regarding the application of Newton's laws. There is an acknowledgment of the calculations made, but no consensus on the final answer has been reached.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to specific calculations and the need for clarity on the normal force concept. The original poster's calculations are noted, but there is a lack of complete information regarding the final determination of the normal force.

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A 38.0 kg box (m1) rests on a table. A 17.0 kg box (m2) is placed on top of the 38.0 kg box. What is the normal force that the 38.0 kg box exerts on the 17.0 kg box.

I found that the normal force of just the 38.0kg box is 372.78N and the normal force of just the 17.0kg box is 166.77N. But I don't know how to figure out the normal force that the 38.0kg box exerts on the 17.0kg box.

any help?
 
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The 17.0 kg box exerts a force of 166.77 N on the 38.0 kg box. Therefore, the normal force is _______. <--- figure it out yourself.
 
Upward direction : positive; downward direction : negative
[tex]\begin{array}{cc}\\<br /> Consider\ mass\ m_1:\\<br /> Newton's \ 2nd\ Law\\<br /> \sum \vec{F} =m\vec{a}= 0 \ in\ this\ case\\<br /> Fm_2m_1+(-m_2g)=0\\<br /> Fm_2m_1 = m_2g\\<br /> = 17.0*9.81\\<br /> = 168 \ N\\<br /> Fm_2m_1= - Fm_1m_2 : Newton's \ 3rd\ Law\\<br /> \end{array}[/tex]
 

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Thank you very much guys. Leong, the picture really helps.
Thanks again.
 

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