Calculating Average Velocity with 3 Sets of Numbers - A Simple Guide

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The discussion revolves around calculating average velocity using three different segments of a car's journey, each with varying speeds. The original poster presents a scenario involving specific distances and speeds, seeking clarification on how to compute the average velocity for the entire trip.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the formula for average velocity, with some attempting to apply it directly to the total distance and total speeds without considering time. Questions arise regarding the correct method to find total time and the implications of varying speeds on the calculation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the need to calculate total time for each speed segment before determining average velocity. There is recognition of the assumptions in the problem, particularly regarding instantaneous speed changes and the implications of deceleration.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential unrealistic nature of the problem, questioning the assumptions of instantaneous transitions between speeds and the implications for real-world scenarios.

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I know average velocity is V = displacement/time, but how do you find this with 3 different sets of numbers??
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A car travels along a straight stretch of road. It proceeds for 13.9 mi at 56 mi/h, then 29 mi at 42mi/h, and finally 32.2 mi at 35.2 mi/h. What is the car's average velocity during the entire trip? Answer in units of mi/h.
 
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[tex]V_{ave}= \frac{d_{total}}{t_{total}[/tex]

Paden Roder
 
Well, for some reason that didn't work.

Ave Velocity= total distance/total time.

Paden Roder
 
I got (13.9 + 29 + 32.2) / (56 + 42 + 35.2) = .5638138138

That's wrong, what did I do wrong??


PRodQuanta said:
Well, for some reason that didn't work.

Ave Velocity= total distance/total time.

Paden Roder
 
kimikims said:
I got (13.9 + 29 + 32.2) / (56 + 42 + 35.2) = .5638138138

That's wrong, what did I do wrong??

You are dividing the total distance by the sum of all the different speeds the car traveled at. This is wrong. You need to divide total distance traveled by the total time. To find the total time, you need to find the time traveled for each of the different speeds, then add them all up. Remember that time = Distance/Speed.

Actually, I find this question kind of weird. To have traveled at different (decreasing) speeds, the car must have been decelerating. PRodQuanta's solution does not apply to real life (neither does the question) because the question assumes that the car made the transition from one speed to another instantaneously.
 
recon said:
Actually, I find this question kind of weird. To have traveled at different (decreasing) speeds, the car must have been decelerating. PRodQuanta's solution does not apply to real life (neither does the question) because the question assumes that the car made the transition from one speed to another instantaneously.
Yeah, I guess only us physics people would notice that. I'm guessing kimi is taking an algebra based physics course. And if they talk about decelerations, then the problem gets a bit messier. I guess that since the distances are large, the author's intended calculation is still a very good approximation.
 

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