Proving U1=U2 When U1, U2, W are Subspaces of V

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The discussion revolves around proving or providing a counterexample to the statement regarding subspaces U1, U2, and W of a vector space V, specifically that if V can be expressed as the direct sum of U1 and W, and also as the direct sum of U2 and W, then U1 must equal U2.

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  • Participants explore the uniqueness of vector representation in direct sums and question the implications of this uniqueness on the equality of subspaces. There is a focus on ensuring clarity regarding the vectors involved in the representations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the proof attempt, discussing the need for explicit clarification regarding the vectors used in the representations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of a basis to support the argument, but there is no consensus on the completeness of the proof yet.

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There is an emphasis on the uniqueness of vector representation in direct sums, which is central to the discussion. Participants are considering how to articulate this uniqueness clearly in their proof.

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I have to prove or give a counter example to the statement if U1, U2, W are subspaces of V such that V=U1 direct sum W and V=U2 direct sum W, then U2=U1.

This is what I did: Let v be an element of V. Then v=v1+v2 for v1 an element of U1 and v2 and element of W and v=v3+v2 for v3 an element of U2. So v-v2=v1 and v-v2=v3. Therefore v1=v3. Hence U1=U2 since every vector in each subspace is the same.

I just feel like I am missing something to make my small proof 100% airtight. Should I mention somewhere that v is represented in a unique way since V=U1 direct sum W and V=U2 direct sum W?
 
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gravenewworld said:
This is what I did: Let v be an element of V. Then v=v1+v2 for v1 an element of U1 and v2 and element of W and v=v3+v2 for v3 an element of U2. So v-v2=v1 and v-v2=v3. Therefore v1=v3.
Be careful, how do you know whether your v2 in the expression v=v1+v2 is the same v2 as the one in v=v3+v2?
 
I guess I could explicity write that v2 is the same vector in both situations.
 
Actually, doesn't v2 have to be the same for both situations since v is the same? Since V is a direct sum of both subspaces then v has a unique representation so v2, has to be the same right?
 
Yes, that's true. But I would write that out explicitly, it doesn't appear trivial to me. I'd use a basis of V to write v, then take those vectors that are in U1 to form a basis for U1, the rest will form a basis for W. Then the result follows from the uniqueness of the basis expansion.
 

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