Electric field from a charged rod

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The discussion revolves around deriving the expression for the electric field at a point along the perpendicular bisector of a charged rod, considering a known total charge and length L, with a perpendicular distance y from the rod. The focus is on the mathematical formulation and integration involved in this derivation.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their integral for the electric field, suggesting it appears complicated.
  • Another participant provides a hint that the integral is manageable, referencing a specific integral form.
  • A later reply suggests that reorienting the problem by placing the origin at the middle of the rod and using an angle instead of a variable may simplify the integral.
  • There is acknowledgment that while the formula may be correct, the integral remains complex.

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Participants generally agree that the integral is complicated and that there may be alternative approaches to simplify it. However, there is no consensus on the best method to derive the expression.

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The discussion highlights the challenges in integrating the expression for the electric field, with participants noting the complexity of the integral involved and suggesting different approaches without resolving the mathematical uncertainties.

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Ok, I'm inexperienced with the latex code, so excuse me.

I'm trying to derive the expression for the electric field at a point, along the perpendicular bisector of a charged rod, of known total charge, length L, a perpendicular distance y from the rod.

The horizontal components cancel,
[tex] \frac{qy}{4\pi \varepsilon_0 L} \int_0^L \frac{dx}{((\frac{L}{2}-x)^2 +y^2)^{3/2}}[/tex]
I don't think this is right, because that seems a nasty integral. Any ideas?

Apologies if you think this is the wrong section. Thanks.
 
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I finally got the tex perfect. Can somebody please help me as soon as possible? Thanks a lot.
 
The integral's not too bad.. Hint:
[tex]\int (1+x^2)^{-3/2}dx=x/\sqrt{1+x^2}[/tex]
 
MaximumTaco said:
Ok, I'm inexperienced with the latex code, so excuse me.

I'm trying to derive the expression for the electric field at a point, along the perpendicular bisector of a charged rod, of known total charge, length L, a perpendicular distance y from the rod.

The horizontal components cancel,
[tex] \frac{qy}{4\pi \varepsilon_0 L} \int_0^L \frac{dx}{((\frac{L}{2}-x)^2 +y^2)^{3/2}} [/tex]
I don't think this is right, because that seems a nasty integral. Any ideas?

You are right, this is not right, and the integral is nasty.
You get a much nicer integral if you place your origin at the middle of the rod, and use the angle [tex]\varphi[/tex] instead of x. See pic.

[tex]r=\frac{y}{\cos(\varphi )} \mbox{ , } x = y \tan(\varphi )[/tex]...

ehild
 
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ehild said:
You are right, this is not right, and the integral is nasty.

ehild

Sorry, the formula was right... But it is still nasty.

ehild
 

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