# Mathematical Induction Step

by beatem
Tags: induction, mathematical, step
 P: 5 Hi, I'm trying to learn mathematical induction for proving inequalities, but there is just one step I cannot get past: finding another inequality that is added to the inductive hypothesis. For example, in this problem: Prove for all positive integers (n >= 1), prove 3^n + 2 >= 3n. I understand the basis step and in general how to do induction, but for some reason, the example says that that after I get the hypothesis, 3^k + 2 >= 3k (for some arbitrary k), it can generate the inequality 2*3^k >= 3 for all k >= 1. Where does this come from? I can follow how it adds this inequality to the hypothesis, but what is this, and how would I go about getting this? This isn't just a generic problem by the way: I've looked at many examples, but I can't figure out what this is when dealing with inequalities and induction.
 P: 617 For your example I would first show: 3n ≥ 3n which is easier. You said you can do the basic step. So let's move on to the induction. To do the induction we suppose n, then we prove if n is true, n+1 is true. So first suppose: 3n ≥ 3n. Then our goal is to show: 3n+1≥3(n+1) To do that I would prove the following: 3n ≥ 3n ⇒ 3+3n ≥ 3(n+1) Then i would prove: 3n+1≥3+3n for n>1 Putting these together: 3n+1≥3+3n≥3(n+1) This step shows our goal! Thus by the principle of induction: 3n ≥ 3n for Natural n Then you know: 3n ≥ 3n ⇒3n + 2 ≥ 3n or 3n ≥ 3n ⇒3*3*3n =3n+2 ≥ 3n from the properties of inequalities. It's hard to tell which of these you were trying to prove how you wrote it.
 P: 5 Thanks for the reply! Sorry: I meant (3^n)+2 So is there no need for the extra inequality of 2*3^n >= 3? Or am I just missing something?
P: 617

## Mathematical Induction Step

No need for the other inequality, which i think you typed incorrectly.

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