What would happen if you travelled at 3/5 c

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The discussion revolves around relativistic mechanics, specifically examining the effects of traveling at a speed of 3/5 the speed of light (c) on the measurements of time and distance for radioactive particles moving through a 400-meter tube. Participants are exploring concepts such as time dilation and the relativistic length contraction of the tube as perceived by different observers.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the tube's length as perceived by an observer moving with the particles, questioning the application of the gamma factor. They also explore the half-life of the particles in different reference frames and the implications of time dilation. Some participants seek clarification on the correct approach to calculating the half-life based on the lab frame versus the particles' rest frame.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of time dilation and the need to consider different frames of reference. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the half-life calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of relativistic physics and the specific scenario of a lab setting with a defined distance and speed. There is an ongoing examination of assumptions related to the frames of reference for both the particles and the lab environment.

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Gamma = 1 / (Root (1/ v^2/c^2))
The target area in a lab in a straight line tube of 400 m long. 1 million radioactive particles are shot in this tube at (3/5) c . Half of them will arrive at the other end without decaying. To the observer moving with the particle:

a) how long is the tube measured to be?
shorter than 400m, i would think it's 400 / gamma = 400 / 1.25 = 320m

b) what is the half life of the particles?
is this as easy i think it is? t = D/ v = 400 / (3/5)c = 2.22 x 10^-6 s and thus half life is 1.11 x 10^-6 s

c) What is the speed the tube is measured to move?
in the opposite direction at (3/5)c?
 
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stunner5000pt said:
a) how long is the tube measured to be?
shorter than 400m, i would think it's 400 / gamma = 400 / 1.25 = 320m
Right.

b) what is the half life of the particles?
is this as easy i think it is? t = D/ v = 400 / (3/5)c = 2.22 x 10^-6 s and thus half life is 1.11 x 10^-6 s
Half-life should be measured in the rest frame of the particles. (You measured the travel time according to the lab frame.)

c) What is the speed the tube is measured to move?
in the opposite direction at (3/5)c?
Right.
 
For the B Part is the following correct??

since the distnace traveled in the lab fram is 400 m, and velocity is 3/5c then the time is 2.22 e -6 s

furthermore, the half life is given by 2.22e-6 / gamma = 1.776 e -6s


Is this correct or am i still off?? please help!
 
You got it. You figured the travel time according to the lab frame. Then accounted for time dilation. (If you think of the particles as moving clocks, they must exhibit time dilation.)

Another way to do it is to figure the travel time directly from the lab frame. In the lab frame, you found the distance "traveled" to be 320m (from part A). Figure the travel time t = D/v. That's the half-life.
 

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