US Admin's Immunity for Oil Companies: Astounding & True

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The discussion revolves around the implications of a US executive order granting immunity to oil companies, with participants expressing their astonishment and concern over the administration's actions. The conversation touches on legal interpretations, biases in reporting, and the broader context of corporate immunity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express astonishment at the administration's actions, suggesting they are consistent with a pattern of corporate immunity.
  • One participant critiques the bias in an article discussing the executive order, noting that quotes may have been taken out of context.
  • A participant calls for a legal opinion from a judge to better understand the implications of the executive order, rather than relying on potentially biased sources.
  • Another participant describes the executive order as outrageous if the claims about immunity are accurate.
  • One participant shares a link to the executive order for others to review it directly.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in understanding the legal language of the order and seeks clarification from others.
  • It is noted that the order is declared under a "National Emergency," which some interpret as granting immunity from prosecution.

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Participants generally express concern and disbelief regarding the executive order, but there is no consensus on the legal implications or interpretations of the order itself. Multiple competing views on the order's impact and the reliability of sources remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of legal language and the potential for bias in media reporting, indicating that interpretations may vary significantly based on individual perspectives and expertise.

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Unfortunately, this is pretty par for the course, isn't it? Corporations get immunity from nearly everything these days, including taxes, so why should this be a surprise?
 
That article was pretty heavily biased. In some cases the quotes were chopped up to remove qualifying statements in order to make them sound more absolute.

However, not being a lawyer, its not an easy order to interpret. I'd like to hear an opinion from a real judge on what the implications are, rather than a lawer connected to a tabloid.
 
If this is for real, it is outrageous.
 
For those wishing to read executive order 13303 for themselves;

http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2003/pdf/03-13412.pdf


The source;
http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/executive_orders/2003.html
 
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I tend to think my reading comprehension is pretty good, but I don't speak lawyerese. If anyone has any insight, I'd be more than willing to hear it.
 
It's declared as a "National Emergency", and from what little I can tell, it basically does what that lawyer in that article says it does, immunity from prosecution.
 

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