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| Dec17-10, 03:58 PM | #1 |
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Unit tangent and normal vectors
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
r(t)=ti+t^2j Find the velocity, speed, acceleration, unit tangent, and unit normal vectors. 2. Relevant equations Velocity=r'(t) Speed=magnitude of r'(t) Acceleration=r''(t) Unit tangent=r'(t)/magnitude of r'(t) Unit normal=d/dt[unit tangent]/magnitude of d/dt[unit tangent] 3. The attempt at a solution Velocity=i+2tj Speed=[itex]\sqrt{1^2+(2t)^2} = \sqrt{1+4t^2}[/itex] Acceleration=2j Unit tangent=[tex]\frac{i+2tj}{\sqrt{1+4t^2}}[/tex] I'm pretty sure that's all right so far. I get mixed up in the algebra at the unit normal. For d/dt[unit tangent] I have [tex]\frac{2j\sqrt{1+4t^2}-\frac{1}{2}(1+4t^2)^{-1/2}(8t)}{1+4t^2}[/tex]. Is that correct? How do I take the magnitude of that mess? I can't really see a way to simplify it. |
| Dec17-10, 04:05 PM | #2 |
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your unit normal still has to have a direction doesn't it? if you find the i and j components, then you can find the magnitude the same way you found the magnitude of r'(t)
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| Dec17-10, 04:13 PM | #3 |
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That's the problem, I have no idea how to simplify it to something where I can square the components, add them, and take the square root.
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| Dec17-10, 04:33 PM | #4 |
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Unit tangent and normal vectors
hi cdotter!
![]() the unit normal is simply the unit vector perpendicular to the unit tangent!
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| Dec17-10, 04:46 PM | #5 |
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http://www.ltcconline.net/greenl/cou...ns/tannorm.htm I just found this trick to simplify it so maybe that will work: "Since the unit vector in the direction of a given vector will be the same after multiplying the vector by a positive scalar, we can simplify by multiplying by the factor" |
| Dec17-10, 04:47 PM | #6 |
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| Dec17-10, 04:50 PM | #7 |
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I didn't realize the exact same problem was there until you said it, I just saw the trick/technique.
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| Dec17-10, 04:59 PM | #8 |
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as you can see, my definition also works (and is much quicker) … the only difference is that my method comes up with two unit normal vectors (oppsotie each other), the one you need is "is the unique vector that points into the curve", ie the one towards the centre of curvature (the concave side) for a 3D curve, you do need the book's method, to decide which one is the principal vector but for a 2D curve like this, just choosing the concave side is enough!
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