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| Oct3-04, 07:25 AM | #1 |
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help with proving limits using Epsilon-Delta definition
I am having trouble proving the limits of quadratic functions such as the following. (I used "E" to represent epsilon and "d" for delta)
lim [(x^2)+1] x->1 I found the limit, L, to equal 2 and have proceeded through the following steps: |f(x) - L| < E | [(x^2)+1] - 1| < E |[(x^2)-1]| < E |x+1||x-1| < E While I also know that 0 < |x-1| < d. My question is how do you find the numerical relationship between |x+1||x-1| and |x-1| so that I may find d in terms of E? (I was thinking of finding the bounded open interval in which |x+1||x-1| = |[(x^2)-1]| and substituting the greastest figure of the interval, which would be greater than |x+1|, in place of |x+1| so that I would have z|x-1|< E where z is an identified numerical value. However, in problems like the one above, |x+1||x-1| = |[(x^2)-1]| within a seemingly unbounded interval.) please help. your time and assistance is very much appreciated. |
| Oct3-04, 08:02 AM | #2 |
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Use the triangle inequality perhaps, |x + 1| = |x - 1 + 2| <= |x - 1| + 2 < d + 2.
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| Oct3-04, 10:23 AM | #3 |
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What you have done, is to make a GUESS at the limit value!! (As it happens, you've made a correct guess, but that is irrelevant; it's still a guess). What you are to do now, is: 1. Does my guess (2) satisfy the properties that a limit must have? 2. Let [tex]|x-1|<\delta[/tex] 3. Then, [tex]|x^{2}+1-2|=|x^{2}-1|=|x-1||x+1|[/tex] 4. Now, by assumption, [tex]|x-1|<\delta[/tex] Let us make a further assumption, that [tex]\delta<1[/tex] Then, [tex]|x+1|<2 (\delta<1)[/tex] And: [tex]|x^{2}+1-2|<2\delta, (\delta<1)[/tex] 5. Let [tex]\epsilon>0[/tex] If we are to have [tex]|x^{2}+1-2|<\epsilon[/tex] for all x satisfying [tex]|x-1|<\delta[/tex] it is sufficient if the following inequalities are simultaneously satisfied: [tex]2\delta<\epsilon[/tex] [tex]\delta<1[/tex] Hence, setting [tex]\delta=min(\frac{\epsilon}{2},1)[/tex] suffices. That is, we were able to show that our guess (2) satisfy the properties a limit must have. |
| Oct4-04, 04:43 PM | #4 |
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help with proving limits using Epsilon-Delta definition
By 'finding' 2 through the substitution of 1 in f(x)=[(x^2)+1] I meant that it was a possible limit whose validity must be varified through the E-d definition. Thank you for correcting me however, to avoid my own future confusion.
Thanks for the helpful guidance and clarification. |
| Oct4-04, 04:47 PM | #5 |
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I was perhaps a bit too snappish on that point, don't bite me back, though..
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