Guantanamo: A Luxury Resort - Yahoo News

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conditions at Guantanamo Bay and the implications of detaining individuals without due process. Participants explore the comparison of Guantanamo to a luxury resort and raise concerns about the lack of legal rights for detainees, as well as broader issues of justice and presumption of guilt.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a claim that conditions at Guantanamo are comparable to a health resort, questioning the validity of such comparisons.
  • Others express skepticism about the reliability of opinions from individuals who cannot visit Guantanamo, suggesting that such views may lack authority.
  • A participant highlights the absence of due process for detainees, raising concerns about the fairness of their detention and the potential for wrongful accusations of terrorism.
  • Another participant draws parallels between the treatment of detainees and the presumption of guilt in other legal contexts, such as traffic violations, questioning the fairness of such systems.
  • There is a suggestion that the lack of investigation into the backgrounds of detainees contributes to a blanket assumption of guilt.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions at Guantanamo and the implications of detaining individuals without trial. There is no consensus on the fairness of the treatment of detainees or the validity of comparisons made to luxury resorts.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the legal and ethical issues surrounding detention without trial, but do not resolve the various assumptions and implications raised in the discussion.

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OOPS!

"At Guantanamo they treat him humanely, the conditions are fine."......"I think that there is not even a health resort in Russia on the level of this place,"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030808/od_nm/odd_russia_guantanamo_dc_1
 
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OOPS!



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030808/od_nm/odd_russia_guantanamo_dc_1

What is the point of this?
 
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Note to self: Don't go to a Russian health resort.

Or maybe, don't consider a Russian mother (who AFAIK is not allowed to go to Guantanamo bay herself) to be a definitive expert.
 
One thing about it though, there's no due process for those guys - so no way to ascertain the facts of their activity in terrorism. Do some of them have links to the Taliban? Certainly, but some of them might not, and it is unjust to detain them without any trial or investigation.
 
The more I notice things, that seems to be the way things work.

For example, something as simple as a traffic ticket. As soon as that ticket is written, your guilty. Even if you truly are innocent, you still have to pay to get a lawyer to defend you, which you may or may not be found innocent. Just try going to court to defend your innocence without a lawyer.

So of course anyone captured in Afganistan is going to be treated as a terrorist, unless some compelling evidence on there behalf is found.

The question is, is anyone looking?
 

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