Calculating Elevator Acceleration: Tips for Solving a Motion Problem

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The problem involves calculating the acceleration of an elevator based on the reading of a bathroom scale when the elevator begins to move. The context is rooted in classical mechanics, specifically Newton's laws of motion and the effects of gravity on weight measurement.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the role of gravity and the implications of the scale reading 0.75 of the person's weight. There are suggestions to perform a force analysis using Newton's second law, and some participants express uncertainty about the problem setup and the need for clarification on the concepts involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of free body diagrams and the relationship between net force and acceleration. There is acknowledgment of the downward direction of acceleration, but no consensus on the specifics of the calculations has been reached.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes that calculus is not required for this problem, emphasizing that it should be solvable using Newton's laws alone. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the acceleration's behavior, with participants questioning whether it is changing.

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Here's the problem:
A person stands on a bathroom scale in a motionless elevator. When the elevator begins to move, the scale briefly reads only 0.75 of the person's regular weight. Calculate the acceleration of the elevator, and find the direction of acceleration.

I honestly don't know how to get this problem started. I'm assuming gravity has a part to play in this, and based on the "0.75", I'm guessing the elevator is going down. Can anyone offer tips to get this problem rolling?

Thanks in advance
 
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Do a force analysis using

Newton's 2nd Law

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F}_{i} = m \vec{a}[/tex]
 
I'm a little rusty on my physics (i'm actually helping a friend here, its not my problem). Could you please explain a little more what you mean?

One more thing, calculus shouldn't be required for this problem, it just covers Newton's Laws (as you mentioned). I think I'm overlooking something obvious here

Thanks for taking a look, i really appreciate it!
 
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The person will have a movement while in the elevator in the Y-axis. or an acceleration of [tex]\vec{a} = +/- a_{y}j[/tex], depending where its heading. Which you have to find out. Test it on both directions and see which equation is the proper one.
 
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Ok so based on that (and the info i was given)... it looks like the elevator is heading downward, with the person's acceleration increasing in the [tex]- a_{y}j[/tex] direction. Am I on the right track?
 
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Right track, so far ! But it wouldn't be right to say "acceleration increasing in the..". There is no indication that the acceleration is changing.

But yes, the acceleration is downwards.
 
Did you draw a free body diagram ? This is the first thing to do. What are the forces on the man ? Relate the net force to the acceleration (see post #2) and you're home !
 
Thanks for the help, we got it finally!
 

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