Understanding Index Notation in Engineering and Physics

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The discussion revolves around understanding index notation in the context of engineering and physics problems. Participants are exploring how to express physical concepts and equations using index notation, particularly focusing on force components and their relationships to vectors and surfaces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to convert physical equations into index notation, discussing specific problems related to gravitational force and components of force acting on a surface. Questions arise about the correct interpretation of variables and the representation of components in index notation.

Discussion Status

Several participants have offered different representations of the equations in index notation, with some clarifying terms and suggesting interpretations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express components like sine and cosine in index notation, and some participants are questioning the terminology used, such as the Euclidean metric tensor.

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Participants express uncertainty about specific terms and concepts, such as the Euclidean metric tensor and its relation to matrices. There is also a mention of homework constraints that may limit the information available for discussion.

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hello, i just started learning index notation in my engineering class, and I am having some trouble. one of the problems on my homework was:

putting this in index notation:
[tex]\vec{f}=g \frac{m_1m_2}{\vec{r}^2} \ \frac{\vec{r}}{\sqrt{\vec{r}^2}}[/tex]

and then another problem that reads...

consider a plane with outer normal vector [tex]v_i[/tex] on which a force is acting [tex]f_i[/tex]. what are the normal components of force on the surface? wut is the max shear component? what direction is the max shear component pointing? write this in index notation.

i can figure out the components...just not how to write them in index notation. so any help here would be appreciated. thanks
 
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For your f, you may write:
[tex]f_{i}=\frac{Gm_{1}m_{2}}{r_{j}^{2}}\frac{r_{i}}{\sqrt{r_{k}^{2}}}[/tex]
I read "g" as "G" ; hope I was right about that..:wink:
 
[tex]f^a=g \frac{m_1m_2}{(r_b r^b)^{3/2}} \ r^a[/tex]


Given a vector [itex]\vec f[/itex] and a unit-vector [itex]\hat n[/itex],
the vector component of [itex]\vec f[/itex] along [itex]\hat n[/itex] is
[itex](\vec f\cdot \hat n)\hat n[/itex].
In index notation,
[itex]( f^a g_{ab} n^b) n^c[/itex], where [itex]g_{ab}[/itex] is the Euclidean metric tensor and [itex]n^a g_{ab} n^b=1[/itex].
 
for the problem with the normal vector and external force, arent the components fsin and fcos? how would i turn those into index notation?
 
chusifer said:
for the problem with the normal vector and external force, arent the components fsin and fcos? how would i turn those into index notation?
[tex]f^a g_{ab} n^b=\vec f\cdot\hat n =|\vec f | |\hat n|\cos\theta _\text{between f and n }=|\vec f | \cos\theta _\text{between f and n }[/tex]
 
hmmmm [tex]g_a_b[/tex] ...that sounds like the matrix [tex]B_i_j[/tex] my prof was talking about. I am unfamiliar with the term Euclidian metric tensor...but am i right in calling it a matrix?
 

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