Ant crawls on a meter strick with acceleration

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of an ant's average velocity while crawling along a meter stick, given its acceleration function and initial conditions. Participants explore the application of integration to find average velocity over specified time intervals, addressing potential mistakes in their calculations.

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  • One participant presents the ant's acceleration function and initial conditions, leading to derived equations for velocity and position.
  • The participant questions their calculation of average velocity over the first 3 seconds, noting a discrepancy when using the theorem for averaging.
  • Another participant points out that averaging should be done using the velocity function instead of the acceleration function.
  • A subsequent reply indicates a revised calculation of average velocity using the correct velocity function, yielding a result of 2.375 m/s, and seeks confirmation on this answer.
  • Another participant suggests using the definition of average velocity by calculating the total distance traveled and dividing by the time interval.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct approach to calculating average velocity, with some advocating for integration of the velocity function while others emphasize the use of distance traveled over time. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to apply.

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There are potential limitations in the participants' calculations, including assumptions about the integration limits and the interpretation of the average velocity definition. The discussion does not resolve these issues.

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I have a question ..an ant crawls on a meter strick with acceleration

[tex]a(t)=t-1/2t^2[/tex]. After t seconds the ants intiial velocity is 2cm/s.

The ants initial poistion is the 50cm mark. So ten [tex]\int_{a}^{b}f(t)dt[/tex]

and [tex]v(t)=1/2t^2-1/6t^3+c[/tex] and because [tex]v(0)=2m/s[/tex]

the equation is [tex]v(t)=1/2t^2-1/6t^3+2[/tex] and I did the same thing for

the position function and came up with the final function for positon of

[tex]s(t)=1/6t^3-1/24t^4+2t+50[/tex]...the problem is when asked what

was the ants average velocity over the first 3 seconds of its journey. Using

the [tex]\frac{1}{b-a}\int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx[/tex]

theorem...[tex]\frac{1}{3}\int_{0}^{3}t-\frac{1}{2}t^2dt[/tex] then I

got [tex]\frac{1}{3}(\frac{9}{2}-\frac{27}{6})-\frac{1}{3}(0)[/tex]...Right

here where the lower limit is [tex]0[/tex] I dicided that since

[tex]v(0)=2[/tex] I would enter that value in for

it...[tex]\frac{1}{3}(\frac{9}{2}-\frac{27}{6})-\frac{1}{3}(2)[/tex] but

my answer came out to be [tex]-\frac{2}{3}[/tex] which I wouldn't get if i

averaged the regualr function without using the theorem

[tex]\frac{1}{b-a}\int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx[/tex]. Am I wrong?

And the second qustion is the same question except.."over the first 6 seconds of its journy" so [tex][0,6][/tex]...the graph for this function goes down into the negatives...?
 
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Why are you averaging the acceleration, instead of the velocity ?
 
Hmm that's seems like a dumb mistake :rolleyes: I should be integrating the velocity
ay?
[tex]\frac{1}{b-a}\int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{3}\int_{0}^{3}\frac{1}{2}t^2-\frac{1}{6}t^3+2dt[/tex]


[tex]\frac{1}{3}(\frac{57}{8})-\frac{1}{3}(0)[/tex] comes out to be

[tex]2.375m/s[/tex]. Does anyone have any comment on that answer? I think its right from looking at the graph.
 
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Use the basic definition of "average velocity". Since you already have the distance function, how far did the ant crawl between t= 0 and t= 3? Now divide the distance by 3 seconds.
 

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