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The discussion focuses on designing degenerate PCR primers, exploring the concepts and methodologies involved in their creation and application. Participants seek clarification on the principles of degenerate PCR and the specifics of primer design, including the role of wobble bases.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about degenerate PCR, asking how many primers are needed and how degenerate primers function in the amplification process.
  • Another participant shares personal guidelines for designing primers, emphasizing nucleotide length, GC content, melting temperature, and avoiding self-complementation and dimer formation.
  • The same participant explains the concept of wobble in degenerate primers, detailing how a mix of different combinations is synthesized to enhance the likelihood of successful amplification.
  • A participant seeks confirmation about the necessity of designing both forward and reverse primers, and the process of sending them for synthesis, while also inquiring if only the primers with the best match will bind during PCR.
  • One participant confirms the accuracy of the previous statement regarding primer design and function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to design both forward and reverse primers for degenerate PCR and the role of wobble bases in creating a mixture of primers. However, there remains some uncertainty regarding the specifics of how these primers interact with the target DNA during amplification.

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Participants have not fully resolved the complexities of how degenerate primers select for specific targets during PCR, and there may be assumptions about the effectiveness of different primer combinations that are not explicitly stated.

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This discussion may be useful for researchers or students interested in molecular biology techniques, particularly those working with PCR and primer design.

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i am looking for a tool where i can designe degenerate PCR primers.

by the way i have read about degenerate PCR, but find it hard to understand, so please explain these for me;

in standard PCR mixture we have a forward and reverse primer for our target, but how many primers do i need in a degenerate PCR mixture? besides how does the degenerate primers work? when we induce wobble in the primer, how come one of the specific one is chosen among the wobbles? or how does it actually work to make our pcr product? *extremely confused*



hope for ideas!

thanks a lot!
 
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I personnaly do not use tool design primers. I go with my own eyes. The best way to do it is to follow the following guidelines:

18-24 nucleotides (aim for 24)
45-55% GC (aim for 50%)
Melting Temperature ~ 60 °C (it usually more or less at 57)
Less than 4 nucleotides of self-complementation
No dimer formation at the 3’ end
G or C at the 3’ end (not A or T)
Avoid GGG or CCC at the 3’ end

For degenerate primers the idea is the that when you design the primer you have to decide to either put A, T, G, C or one the letter that represent more than one base pair. When the primer is synthesised, the machine will decided to to either base. For example, you design this primer ATGCRGTACC, R = A,G, so in your solution you will have a mix of ATGCAGTACC and ATGCGGTACC. The only is exception is the base I, which will be in all the primers since this base binds A, T, G, C. So in your primer stock you will have a mix of several differrent combination. The idea is that a some primers will have a good match and allow amplification.
 
hi Ian!

so you mean that like standard PCR i have to design a forward and a reverse primer? and when design them i have to if necessary add the wobble in my primers and send them to a manufacturer. the manufacturer will make a combination of the different primers due to the wobble. and during the PCR only the primers which have the highest match with the target would bind to it?


hope for replies!
thanks!
 
Everything you said is right
 
many thanks!
 

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