Finding the harmonic function of a function?

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The discussion revolves around finding the harmonic function of a given piecewise function defined by the expression t(u(t-2) - u(t-5)), which is periodically expanded with a period of 9. Participants explore the steps involved in integrating this function and applying the Fourier series to derive the harmonic function.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to graph the function defined by the subtraction of two unit step functions multiplied by t.
  • Another participant suggests breaking the integral from 0 to 9 into three parts, noting that the function is identical to f(t) = t between 2 and 5 and zero elsewhere on the interval (0,9).
  • A participant shares a graphical representation of their function and questions whether their solution is correct, expressing uncertainty about potential mistakes.
  • Another participant acknowledges that the function and integral setup appear correct but mentions a possible omission of a term (fF) in the process.
  • One participant confirms that the formula used is from the 'Fourier series' section and questions the correctness of the arithmetic involved in the integration.
  • A later reply raises uncertainty about how to proceed with the output of the integral (X[k]) to find the harmonic of the function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the form of the function and the setup of the integral, but there is uncertainty regarding the arithmetic correctness and the subsequent steps to find the harmonic function. No consensus is reached on the final solution or the correctness of the arithmetic.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of the integration steps and the definitions used, particularly concerning the term "harmonic function" and its relation to the Fourier series.

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Hello everyone,

Since I needed some place to ask my question, I ended up here. I sure hope you can help me :).

I'm "completely" new to Signals & Systems, and although I'm new to it, I already have loads of assignments I need to make (note this is NOT homework!, they are to make me understand S&S..., if this is interpreted as HW, my apalogies). The problem is I don't really understand how some of the formulas work or what steps I need to take...

The book I'm using: Signals & Systems by M.J. Roberts

The question:

Given : The function t(u(t-2) - u(t-5)) is periodically expanded with period 9.

Find the harmonic function, using the fundamental period as base period.
The formule that I'm supposed to use is:
complexCoefficients.jpg


I could also find this harmonic function by using the appendix E in the book (second question).

My questions:
Graphical expression: I know the function exists out of a substraction of two unit step functions, multiplied with "t"? I'm not sure how to picture the function in total?

Could anyone give me a head start, or help me explain how I integrate this function in the formula?
 
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T = 9. Your graph is identical to f(t) = t between 2 and 5 and zero elsewhere on the interval (0,9). Then extended periodically. So break your integral from 0 to 9 into three parts, two of which are very easy.
 
Then I get this as my function:

[PLAIN]http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/5808/function.jpg

Is this solution done the right way? I have the feeling I messed up somewhere...

[PLAIN]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2446/function2.png

If it is right, do I just let k be a chosen integer?

Thanks for your help so far.
 
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I didn't check all your steps. But you do have the function right and the integral set up correctly. And it does look like you dropped an fF along the way.

I'm not an EE so am unfamiliar with Signals & Systems. And I'm guessing that what you refer to as the "harmonic function" is what I would call the Fourier Series.

Anyway, barring other arithmetic mistakes, it looks good to me.
 
The formula is a formula given in the section 'Fourier series', so I would presume that is correct.

My question really was if the arithmetic was correct? The fF is (1/9), and i integrated that.

Hope someone can help me.

Thanks.
 
Assuming the integral output is correct, I'm not sure what to do with X[k] afterwards so I can find the harmonic of the function?
 

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