How can I simplify this equation and see the connection between #5 and #7?

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the expression (\frac{1}{x\sqrt{1+x}} - \frac{1}{x}) to evaluate its limit as x approaches 0. Participants explore various algebraic techniques and calculus methods to achieve this simplification.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty with the algebra involved in simplifying the expression.
  • Another suggests transforming the expression to a form suitable for L'Hospital's Rule, indicating that the limit is undefined as x approaches 0.
  • A participant questions the necessity of differentiation, seeking alternative methods to find the limit.
  • One participant proposes a substitution, t=\sqrt{1+x}, which simplifies the expression and leads to a limit of -1/2 as t approaches 1.
  • Another participant reiterates the substitution method, affirming its effectiveness in simplifying the limit calculation.
  • A different approach is suggested involving rationalizing the numerator, which leads to a new form of the expression that can be simplified further.
  • Finally, a participant notes that the methods presented in posts #5 and #7 are fundamentally similar, both utilizing the factorization of x in their simplifications.

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Participants present multiple methods for simplifying the expression and finding the limit, indicating that there is no consensus on a single approach. Various techniques are discussed, and while some methods are acknowledged as effective, no definitive agreement on the best method is reached.

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Some participants express limitations in their knowledge of calculus, which affects their ability to apply certain methods. The discussion also reflects a reliance on algebraic manipulation and substitution without resolving the underlying complexities of the limit evaluation.

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Technically this is a calculus problem I'm working on, but I'm just having problems with the Algebra portion.

If I have:

[tex](\frac{1}{x\sqrt{1+x}} - \frac{1}{x})[/tex]

How can I simply this so that I can substitute in 0 for x?
 
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You want to get this in a form for the use of L'Hospital's Rule: [tex]\frac{1-\sqrt{1+x}}{x(\sqrt{1+x})}[/tex]

In this form we see that as [tex]x\rightarrow0[/tex] the quotient is undefined, so we can differentiate and simplify.
 
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We haven't gone into differentiation or anything like that, is there another way?

Actually, the problem that I'm trying to figure out is

lim
x -> 0 of the expression above.


edit: For clarification - it's not for homework, it's just a problem I'm trying to figure out.
 
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I don't know any other way to do this problem. This is how you do it using the Calculus. You differentiate and get:

[tex]\frac{[-2\sqrt{1+x}]^-1}{(2+3x)[2\sqrt{1+x}]^-1}=\frac{-1}{2+3x}\rightarrow \frac{-1}{2} ...as... x \rightarrow 0[/tex]
 
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The substitution

[tex]t=\sqrt{1+x}[/tex]

simplifies the function to

[tex]-\frac{1}{(1+t)t}[/tex]

The limit of this as t goes to 1 is -1/2.
 
Fredrik said:
The substitution

[tex]t=\sqrt{1+x}[/tex]

simplifies the function to

[tex]-\frac{1}{(1+t)t}[/tex]

The limit of this as t goes to 1 is -1/2.

That looks like a better way!
 
To add yet another way, rationalize the numerator. Multiply

[tex]\frac{1-\sqrt{1+x}}{x(\sqrt{1+x})}[/tex]

by

[tex]\frac{1+\sqrt{1+x}}{1+\sqrt{1+x}}[/tex]

to get

[tex]\frac{-x}{x(\sqrt{1+x})(1+\sqrt{1+x})}[/tex]

and go from there.
 
And finally see that #5 and #7 are really doing the same thing.

They's both making use of the fact that x can be factored as [itex]-(1-\sqrt{1+x})(1+\sqrt{1+x})[/itex]
 

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