Projection of the vector (2,2,1) on the plane

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the projection of the vector (2,2,1) onto the plane defined by the equation z=x-y. Participants explore various methods and steps involved in the projection process, including identifying the normal vector of the plane.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to find the projection of the vector (2,2,1) on the specified plane.
  • Another suggests first projecting onto the plane's normal vector and then subtracting that result from the original vector.
  • A participant inquires about how to determine the normal vector of the plane.
  • It is noted that the plane's equation can be rewritten to identify a normal vector as (1, -1, 1).
  • One participant proposes that the projection of (2,2,1) onto the plane results in the vector (1,3,0), but this claim is met with skepticism.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the calculation leading to the proposed projection result.
  • A participant emphasizes the complexity of the projection process and refers back to an earlier response for clarification.
  • One participant outlines a method for projecting a vector onto another, involving finding a scalar that ensures perpendicularity to the normal vector.
  • A final participant expresses gratitude for the discussion and indicates they have made progress in understanding the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct projection result, with differing answers and methods presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the projection process, particularly in the calculations and methods used by different participants.

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How can I find the projection of the vector (2,2,1) on the plane that has the equation z=x-y?
 
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First project it on the plane's normal vector (call the resulting vector x), then the vector you're searching for is (2, 2, 1) - x.
 
How do I find the normal vector of the plane?
 
The plane's equation can be written x - y + z = 0, so a normal vector is (1, -1, 1) (the coefficients of the variables).
 
so the projection of the vector (2,2,1) onto the plane (z=x-y) is
(1,3,0)?
 
How did you arrive at that? I got a different answer.
 
I subtracted the vectors, guess it's more complicated than that?
 
Yes, it's more complicated than that. You have to go back to Muzza's original response and DO what he said there!
 
to project v onto w != 0, find c such that v-cw is perpendicular to w, i.e. solve the equation w.(v-cw) = 0. i.e. solve w.v = c w.w, i.e. let c = w.v/w.w. then the projection is cw, I think, but i am geting confused looking at my fingers and doing this in my head.

anyway you get v = cw + (v-cw), where the first term is parallel to w and the second term is perpendicular to w, and so surely that does it.
 
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This is quite a puzzle but thanks for helping, I think I've figured this out.
 

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