Can Prime Numbers x Satisfy x^2 = v^3 + 1?

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The problem involves finding all prime numbers x such that the equation x^2 = v^3 + 1 holds for some integer v. This falls within the realm of number theory, specifically dealing with properties of prime numbers and polynomial equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss factoring the equation, with one suggesting the factorization of the right side into (v + 1)(v^2 - v + 1). There are questions about how to relate these factors back to x and whether all factors of x can be identified. Some participants express confusion about the implications of the factorization and how it relates to the original equation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various factorization approaches and questioning how to connect these factors to the prime number x. Some have identified specific values, such as x = 2, as potential solutions, while others are still clarifying their understanding of the factorization process.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as posed, focusing on prime numbers and integer solutions without additional context or external resources. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between the factors derived from the equation.

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Hey everyone, I need help on this problem:

Find all prime numbers [tex]x[/tex] such that [tex]x^2 = v^3 + 1[/tex] for some integer [tex]v[/tex].

Thanks a lot for your help, i appreciated.
 
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Try factoring.
 
After I factored the right side, i got [tex]x^2 = (v + 1)(v^2 - v + 1)[/tex] I don't see what to do next :frown:

Thank you for your help :smile:
 
You've found 2 factors, in terms of v.
Can you find all factors, in terms of x?
 
I don't understand the "all factors of x" part
you mean [tex](x - 1)(x + 1) = v^3[/tex] ?
 
The only x that seem to work is x = 2
 
Well, x^2 is the square of the prime, x, right? You know the prime factorization of x^2, so you can write down all of its factors.


Since v+1 is a factor, v+1 must be equal to one of the numbers on that list...
 
Hurkyl said:
Well, x^2 is the square of the prime, x, right? You know the prime factorization of x^2, so you can write down all of its factors.


Since v+1 is a factor, v+1 must be equal to one of the numbers on that list...
you mean if 2 is a prime, then [tex]2 = x[/tex], [tex]2^2 = x^2[/tex]
Then [tex]2^2 = (v + 1)(v^2 - v + 1)[/tex] Or [tex]2 * 2 = (v + 1)(v^2 - v + 1)[/tex]
Therefore [tex]2 = v + 1[/tex] and [tex]2 = v^2 - v + 1[/tex]?
 
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You know that (v+1)(v^2-v+1) is a factorization of x^2 into two factors, and you know that x * x is a factorization of x^2 into two factors, but you don't know that they're the same factorization.

However, you can write down all of the ways to factor x^2 into two factors, and you know that (v+1)(v^2-v+1) is going to be one of them.
 
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Ohh I understand now thanks for your help
 

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