What is the solution to the infinite lamp game?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the convergence of the series 1 + 1/4 + 1/9 + 1/16 + ... and its relation to Euler's proof that this series sums to π²/6. Additionally, participants explore a thought experiment involving an omnipotent being and a lamp that is switched on and off at decreasing intervals, questioning the final state of the lamp after an extended period.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the series converges to π²/6 and reference various proofs, including Fourier series and improper integrals.
  • Others express uncertainty about the specific method Euler used to prove the convergence of the series.
  • One participant questions the state of the lamp after a long time, suggesting that since the being stops flipping switches after approximately 1.64 minutes, the lamp must be in a definitive state (either on or off).
  • Several participants inquire about Euler's sine product and its relation to the series, with one providing a partial explanation of the sine product identity.
  • There is a discussion about the coefficients in the series expansion of sin(x) and how they relate to the convergence of the series.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the series converges to π²/6, but there is no consensus on the specific method Euler used to prove this. The discussion about the lamp's state remains unresolved, with differing interpretations of its final condition.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of a rigorous proof for Euler's sine product and the informal nature of some explanations provided. The discussion also highlights the dependence on definitions and interpretations of the lamp's switching behavior.

Ethereal
The following series can be shown to converge, but exactly what does it converge to? Euler was supposed to have proven it to sum to pi^2/6, but how?

1 + 1/4 + 1/9 + 1/16 + ... + 1/(r^2) as r -> infinity

The following is a small maths puzzle that was asked in another forum, but which I know of no answer to:

Assume there exists an omnipotent being who decides to play a game with a lamp. After a minute has passed, he switches it on, 1/2 a min after this, he turns it off, 1/4 of a min later he switches on, 1/8 min later off, 1/16 min later on... After an arbitrarily long time period (1 hour for example, is the lamp switched on or off? What state would it be in?
 
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One proof I know of [itex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^2}=\frac{\pi^2}{6}[/itex] is by using the Fourier series of [itex]\frac{1}{2}\pi x - \frac{1}{4}x^2[/itex].

Another is by evaluating the (improper) double integral:
[tex]\int_0^1\int_0^1\frac{1}{1-xy}dx[/tex]
It's not hard to show that the integral is equal to [itex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^2}[/itex], by expanding the integrand as a geometric series.

I don't know what clever method Euler used to prove it.

Ethereal said:
After an arbitrarily long time period (1 hour for example, is the lamp switched on or off? What state would it be in?
Since it can be shown he will not flip switches for longer than [itex]\frac{\pi^2}{6}\approx 1.64[/itex] minutes, asking for it's state after t minutes is a meaningless question if [itex]t>\frac{\pi^2}{6}\approx 1.64[/itex]
 
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Thanks for the response to the first question. As for the second, can it be said that since he isn't flipping switches after 1.64 min, he must have therefore have left the lamp in only one possible state, since the lamp cannot be anything other than on or off?
 
Galileo said:
I don't know what clever method Euler used to prove it.

he simply used his famous sine product ..

-- AI
 
TenaliRaman said:
he simply used his famous sine product ..

-- AI
Never heard of that.
 
Galileo said:
Never heard of that.

yeah I've never heard of that either, the only solution i know of to this problem is the Fourier series one. i wonder if there's an easier or more elementary way of doing it...
 
Could someone show Euler's method?
 
hmm i guess euler's sine product isn't as famous i expected it to be ..

The following identity is called as the euler's sine product ..
[tex]sin(x) = x * \prod_{n=1}^{\infty}1-\frac{x^2}{n^2\pi^2}[/tex]

Multiply out the first few terms and guess what is the coefficient of x^3??

now consider the series expansion of sin(x) ... what is the coefficient of x^3 here?

they should be equivalent ... so we get ... <fill in the steps>

-- AI
 
Coefficient of [itex]x^3[/itex] on the left side is [itex]-\frac{1}{6}[/itex]. On the right side: [itex]-\frac{1}{\pi^2}\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^2}[/itex].

So how do you prove this sine product?
 
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Consider,
1-((a+b)/ab)x+(1/ab)x^2
this factors as,
(1-x/a)(1-x/b)
Here a and b are the roots ...

Look at the solution, its format is more important ...

Now to euler's sine product ...
now sin(x) can be written as a power series (an infinite polynomial**),
its of the form x(1+...)

it has its zeroes at 0,+/-pi,+/-2pi,...
So i can factor sin(x) as x(1-x/pi)(1+x/pi)(1-x/2pi)(1+x/2pi)...
i.e x(1-x^2/pi^2)(1-x^2/2^2*pi^2) ...

This isn't a highly rigorous proof i know but still intuitive and pretty easy to understand ...

-- AI

** - an infinite polynomial isn't taken in a mild way by many mathematicians ... i apologise them to all ... :-p
 

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