Calculating Impact Speed of Meteor Falling from 811 km

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The discussion revolves around calculating the impact speed of a meteor falling from a height of 811 km above the Earth. The problem involves concepts from gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy, specifically in the context of a falling object under the influence of gravity, while ignoring air resistance.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the use of gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy conservation to find the meteor's speed just before impact. There are questions about the correct application of formulas and the inclusion of initial velocity in calculations.

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Participants are actively discussing the application of energy conservation principles and the correct formulas to use. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to consider changes in potential energy and the relationship to kinetic energy, though there is no explicit consensus on the exact approach to take.

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There is mention of ignoring air resistance, which may affect the calculations. Additionally, participants are questioning the setup of the problem and the assumptions made regarding initial conditions and energy conservation.

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A meteor has a speed of 83.0 m/s when 811 km above the Earth. It is falling vertically (ignore air resistance) and strikes a bed of sand in which it is brought to rest in 3.31 m. What is its speed just before striking the sand?

So here is the formula that I have but it doesn't give me the right answer.
v=square root of (Vi^2 + 2G(Mass of the Earth)/(Radius of the Earth*1-1/3.31)
I get 9337.6 m/s.

Does anyone see where my mistake is?
 
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Use the following expression for potential energy

[tex]V = -GMm/r[/tex]

In the [tex]r[/tex] above, don't forget to inculde Earth's radius too.

Use energy conservation for the initial point and the point just before striking.

You don't need to do anything with the sand

spacetime
www.geocities.com/physics_all/index.html
 
With the above equation, you need to use it twice! You must find the difference in PE between the two distances from the Earth's center. THe change in PE equals the gain in KE.

It occurs to me. Wouldn't it be neat to see a meteor that ignores air resistance?
 
So you mean use the formula
V=GMm/R+r - GMm/R and that will give me the velocity just before it hits? What about the initial velocity? Does that go in there somewhere?
 
strugglin-physics said:
So you mean use the formula
V=GMm/R+r - GMm/R and that will give me the velocity just before it hits? What about the initial velocity? Does that go in there somewhere?
As Vector Sum and spacetime have explained, mechanical energy is conserved. This means that the decrease in gravitational PE will equal the increase in kinetic energy.
 
strugglin-physics said:
So you mean use the formula
V=GMm/R+r - GMm/R and that will give me the velocity just before it hits? QUOTE]
That forumula is correct for increase in KE.

Remember KE = 1/2 mv^2. This formula ought to be imprinted on the inside of your eyelids.
 

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