Need help with this cons. of momentum prob.

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The discussion revolves around a conservation of momentum problem involving a bullet striking a block of wood at rest. The scenario includes the masses of the bullet and block, the distance traveled post-collision, and the coefficient of kinetic friction affecting the block's motion.

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  • Participants discuss the need to determine the initial velocity of the bullet and the impact of frictional forces on the block's motion. There are attempts to apply Newton's second law to analyze the forces acting on the system.

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The discussion has progressed with participants exploring the net forces acting on the block and bullet system. Some have offered insights into the forces involved, while others have questioned the assumptions made regarding the net force calculations. A participant has indicated success in their calculations after addressing these concerns.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of forces in both vertical and horizontal directions, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to correctly account for friction in their analyses. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the problem setup and assumptions.

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When a bullet strikes a block of wood originally at rest, the bullet becomes embedded into the wood block which travels 1.65 m after the collision. If the mass of the bullet is 4.17 g and the mass of the block is 2.00 kg, what is the speed of the block immediately after the collision? The coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the surface is 0.10.

I know i need to find the initial velocity of the bullet but i am not sure how...
 
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The trick here is factoring in the frictional forces. Have you tried anything so far?
 
I did try using Newtons second law to determine the net force on the wood block. In this case I would have to factor in the frictional force...ie.
F(bullet)-F(friction)=m(bullet+block)a, but i ran into a wall because i don't have the acceleration or F(bullet).
 
Are you sure that is the net force acting on the block and bullet during their travel over the surface?
 
Well, there is the force of gravity and the normal force but they are in the vertical direction...all that tells me is that the normal force equals the weight and i can get the frictional force with that piece of info...i don't believe there are any other forces acting on the wood block, 2 in the vertical direction and 2 in the horizontal direction, but I could be (and probably am) wrong.
 
You said net force is [itex]F_{bullet}-F_{friction}[/itex]. That is incorrect. Can you figure out why?
 
Hmm. Well, is it just -F(friction)?Since the bullet is embeded in the block it has zero acceleration and thus zero F...that might work...
 
Just did some number crunching, and it worked...thanks for the patience.
 
You are welcome.
 

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