Find parametric equations for the tangent line to the curve at t=1

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The discussion revolves around finding parametric equations for the tangent line to a curve defined by a vector function at a specific parameter value, t=1. Participants explore the derivation of the vector function, the unit tangent vector, and the implications for the tangent line's equations.

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  • One participant presents the vector function r(t) and the derivative r'(t), expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their results for both r(t) and the unit tangent vector T(t).
  • Another participant agrees with the calculation of T(t) as the unit tangent vector but suggests that the component of the k-vector should be a primitive function of 2t, indicating a potential mistake in the earlier calculation.
  • A different participant suggests that for part (c), using the tangent vector r' directly is sufficient, rather than requiring the unit tangent vector, and provides a specific form for the parametric equations.
  • There are repeated requests for clarification on how to create new threads, indicating some confusion among participants unrelated to the mathematical discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the form of the tangent vector and the approach to finding the parametric equations, but there is some disagreement about the necessity of using the unit tangent vector versus the tangent vector itself. The correctness of the initial calculations remains uncertain.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note potential mistakes in the calculations, particularly regarding the k-component of the vector function and the interpretation of the tangent vector. There is also mention of the need for clarity in notation and parentheses in expressions.

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Students or individuals working on vector calculus problems, particularly those involving parametric equations and tangent lines, may find this discussion relevant.

DeadxBunny
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Original question:

a) Say r'(t) = 3t^2 i - cost j + 2t k, and r(0) = i + k. Find r(t).
b) Find T(t).
c) Find parametric equations for the tangent line to the curve at t=1.

I have done parts a and b and got the following results:

a) r(t) = t^3 + 1 i - sint j + t^2 + 1 k
b)T(t) = r'(t)/|r'(t)| = (3t^2 i - cost j + 2t k)/(sqrt(9t^4 + cos^2(t) + 4t^2))

Are these answers correct so far? I'm unsure about my answer for T(t) because the denominator seems so messy.

Also, and most importantly, how would I do part (c)?

Thanks!
 
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DeadxBunny said:
Original question:

a) Say r'(t) = 3t^2 i - cost j + 2t k, and r(0) = i + k. Find r(t).
b) Find T(t).
c) Find parametric equations for the tangent line to the curve at t=1.

I have done parts a and b and got the following results:

a) r(t) = t^3 + 1 i - sint j + t^2 + 1 k
b)T(t) = r'(t)/|r'(t)| = (3t^2 i - cost j + 2t k)/(sqrt(9t^4 + cos^2(t) + 4t^2))
The component of the k-vector should be a primitive function of 2t. I`m sure this was a silly mistake, since you got it right for the i-vector.

T(t) is correct. It's just a matter of plugging in your equations.

For c), use T(t) and plug in t=1. That gives you the unit tangent, so you know the direction of the line. Then given that the line passes through the point r(1) you have enough info to determine the line.
 
It would be a good idea to put in parentheses:

r(t)= (t3+ 1)i- (sin t)j+ (t2+ 1)k

Assuming that by T(t) you mean the unit tangent vector, then your answer is correct- divide r' by its own length.

(c) is easy: you don't need the unit tangent vector, just "a" tangent vector and r' works nicely:

x= 3t2+ 1
y= -cos t
z= 2t+ 1

The "+1" terms are, of course, from r(0)= i+ k.
 
Help

I don't know how to make new threads! Well anyway, could someone help me with my parametric equation?
 
jazz_invincible said:
I don't know how to make new threads! Well anyway, could someone help me with my parametric equation?

Go back to the list of threads. At the bottom is a "new thread" button. As far as your "parametric equation" is concerned, we can't help you if you don't post it!
 
HallsofIvy said:
It would be a good idea to put in parentheses:

r(t)= (t3+ 1)i- (sin t)j+ (t2+ 1)k

Assuming that by T(t) you mean the unit tangent vector, then your answer is correct- divide r' by its own length.

(c) is easy: you don't need the unit tangent vector, just "a" tangent vector and r' works nicely:

x= 3t2+ 1
y= -cos t
z= 2t+ 1

The "+1" terms are, of course, from r(0)= i+ k.

Of course, those should be

x= 3t+ 1
y= -cos(1)t
z= 2t+ 1
 

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